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Stirlingsays 03 Apr 22 9.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Agents take fees. You can have my advice for nothing! I've always supported free speech. Just so long as it is lawful speech. Freedom must always exist under the law, and not above it. I haven't yet studied all the provisions of the "online harms bill", but as I believe that some controls are very much needed, am pleased to see action being taken. Having read the press release, I don't see anything that anyone ought to object to. The idea that it is replicating "soviet" content is ridiculous. It's nothing of the sort:- I feel pretty sure that it will be thoroughly scrutinised, both in committee and in the Lords, so any weaknesses will be exposed and openly debated. We can do so here! I suspect people are reacting to what they imagine this bill will do, rather than what it actually will do.
As usual you are an establishment apologist for its betrayals.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Apr 22 10.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
As usual you are an establishment apologist for its betrayals. I am not apologising for anything. I am explaining what I understand the bill is intended to do, but will reserve judgement until it has been scrutinised and debated. Not by another bogeyman, this time the mythical "establishment". This is proposed by the government. A Conservative government who, I suspect, you voted for and will be scrutinised by our democratically elected Parliament. As a democrat, you cannot possibly object to that.
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Pembroke Bristol 04 Apr 22 10.23am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Who on GB news is far right? Paul Embery? Andrew Doyle? De Piero? With respect that is not an answer to the question, and you are not the quoted poster (Wisbech Eagle). The De Piero is Gloria, a former Labour MP.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 07 Apr 22 12.40am | |
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GB News is anything but far right. It is a extremely diverse in presenters and guests. Steyn is a rather boring Fox news wannabe, Dan Wooton is trying to be Tucker Carlson but his guests are diverse views. Anyone who opines it is far right does not watch the channel. Much more impartial IMO than Channel 4 news as an example
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Pembroke Bristol 13 Jul 22 6.04pm | |
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Inaya Folarin Iman GB news The Telford grooming-gangs scandal shames our nation It is said that the moral character of a society can be judged by how it treats its most vulnerable. So what does it say about our society that the authorities have allowed thousands – not hundreds, thousands – of vulnerable girls to be systematically raped, abused and, in some cases, murdered by men? What does it mean when the authorities are forced to admit, time and again, that obvious signs of child sexual exploitation were ignored and that suspected exploitation was not investigated due to political correctness and fears of sparking ‘community tensions’? These questions have been raised once again by the latest revelations about grooming gangs in Britain. This time, in Telford in the West Midlands. A new report into grooming gangs in Telford confirms the horrifying finding of a 2018 Sunday Mirror investigation – that in Telford alone more than 1,000 children have been abused by grooming gangs since the 1980s. The Telford report comes only weeks after the publication of a review into grooming gangs in Oldham, Greater Manchester. Over the years, grooming-gang scandals have rocked Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford, Peterborough, Keighley, Newcastle and other towns and cities across the UK. The pattern has become disturbingly familiar. Very young, mainly working-class white girls from challenging backgrounds are groomed by mainly pakistani Muslim men, often working in the night time economy. These girls become convinced these men are their ‘boyfriends’. They are given food, drugs and alcohol. And they soon begin to view sexual activity with these men as a form of repayment. They are pimped out for sex with other men. And they are systematically threatened, violently abused and sometimes murdered when they try to alert the authorities or try to escape. Many of these girls end up having forced terminations or go on to bear the perpetrators’ children. Many of the girls who contact the authorities – such as the police, social workers or councils – are not believed. They are dismissed as ‘child prostitutes’ and are often considered culpable for their plight. Sometimes, years later, when the mountains of evidence become impossible to conceal, and the demands for the truth become too piercing to ignore, a review will be carried out, a vague apology will be given, and some statements will be made claiming that ‘lessons will be learned and changes have been made’. One of the most worrying acknowledgements in the report is that it admits child sexual exploitation was not investigated in Telford because of a ‘nervousness about race’. This makes it clear, in no uncertain terms, that defending multiculturalism was prioritised over the safety of child victims of the most sickening crimes. It acknowledges that when it comes to the hierarchies of victimhood that are oh-so gleefully promoted by our cultural elites, vulnerable white working-class girls just don’t make the cut. There could hardly be a clearer example of a ‘luxury belief’ than this pernicious racial identity politics. Political correctness may confer status on those in authority, but it results in the marginalisation and exclusion of those already at the bottom of the socio-economic pile. All those who promote this racial thinking, this notion that people’s moral worth and status should be judged by their race, must never be allowed near power – whether that be in local councils or national government. Whether it comes from traditional racists or the purveyors of today’s neo-racialism, racial thinking has a paralysing and destabilising effect on our institutions, and it must be challenged and discredited wholesale. However, political correctness alone cannot explain how such harrowing acts have been allowed to happen, and continue to happen, in our society. That is also the fault of a fundamental loss of purpose in our institutions. We now have a culture in which the politically expedient is prioritised over what is morally right and necessary – a culture in which no one will take responsibility for society, either for protecting the vulnerable or for transforming it for the better. There is a fundamental, deep-rooted crisis of moral and political leadership across our institutions, where the corrosive forces of identity politics provide convenient cover for widespread, crippling moral cowardice and ambivalence. This leaves the most vulnerable, those who are most inconvenient to our shallow narratives, open to the most harrowing forms of abuse. This will not be the last report on grooming gangs and our failure to tackle them. The news will move on and the lessons won’t be learned. As the Tory leadership hopefuls make their pitches to the nation this week, the media are unlikely to grill them on this issue. But we must not let this problem go unreported and uncovered. We must deal with this scourge once and for all.
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Spiderman Horsham 13 Jul 22 6.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Pembroke
Inaya Folarin Iman GB news The Telford grooming-gangs scandal shames our nation It is said that the moral character of a society can be judged by how it treats its most vulnerable. So what does it say about our society that the authorities have allowed thousands – not hundreds, thousands – of vulnerable girls to be systematically raped, abused and, in some cases, murdered by men? What does it mean when the authorities are forced to admit, time and again, that obvious signs of child sexual exploitation were ignored and that suspected exploitation was not investigated due to political correctness and fears of sparking ‘community tensions’? These questions have been raised once again by the latest revelations about grooming gangs in Britain. This time, in Telford in the West Midlands. A new report into grooming gangs in Telford confirms the horrifying finding of a 2018 Sunday Mirror investigation – that in Telford alone more than 1,000 children have been abused by grooming gangs since the 1980s. The Telford report comes only weeks after the publication of a review into grooming gangs in Oldham, Greater Manchester. Over the years, grooming-gang scandals have rocked Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford, Peterborough, Keighley, Newcastle and other towns and cities across the UK. The pattern has become disturbingly familiar. Very young, mainly working-class white girls from challenging backgrounds are groomed by mainly pakistani Muslim men, often working in the night time economy. These girls become convinced these men are their ‘boyfriends’. They are given food, drugs and alcohol. And they soon begin to view sexual activity with these men as a form of repayment. They are pimped out for sex with other men. And they are systematically threatened, violently abused and sometimes murdered when they try to alert the authorities or try to escape. Many of these girls end up having forced terminations or go on to bear the perpetrators’ children. Many of the girls who contact the authorities – such as the police, social workers or councils – are not believed. They are dismissed as ‘child prostitutes’ and are often considered culpable for their plight. Sometimes, years later, when the mountains of evidence become impossible to conceal, and the demands for the truth become too piercing to ignore, a review will be carried out, a vague apology will be given, and some statements will be made claiming that ‘lessons will be learned and changes have been made’. One of the most worrying acknowledgements in the report is that it admits child sexual exploitation was not investigated in Telford because of a ‘nervousness about race’. This makes it clear, in no uncertain terms, that defending multiculturalism was prioritised over the safety of child victims of the most sickening crimes. It acknowledges that when it comes to the hierarchies of victimhood that are oh-so gleefully promoted by our cultural elites, vulnerable white working-class girls just don’t make the cut. There could hardly be a clearer example of a ‘luxury belief’ than this pernicious racial identity politics. Political correctness may confer status on those in authority, but it results in the marginalisation and exclusion of those already at the bottom of the socio-economic pile. All those who promote this racial thinking, this notion that people’s moral worth and status should be judged by their race, must never be allowed near power – whether that be in local councils or national government. Whether it comes from traditional racists or the purveyors of today’s neo-racialism, racial thinking has a paralysing and destabilising effect on our institutions, and it must be challenged and discredited wholesale. However, political correctness alone cannot explain how such harrowing acts have been allowed to happen, and continue to happen, in our society. That is also the fault of a fundamental loss of purpose in our institutions. We now have a culture in which the politically expedient is prioritised over what is morally right and necessary – a culture in which no one will take responsibility for society, either for protecting the vulnerable or for transforming it for the better. There is a fundamental, deep-rooted crisis of moral and political leadership across our institutions, where the corrosive forces of identity politics provide convenient cover for widespread, crippling moral cowardice and ambivalence. This leaves the most vulnerable, those who are most inconvenient to our shallow narratives, open to the most harrowing forms of abuse. This will not be the last report on grooming gangs and our failure to tackle them. The news will move on and the lessons won’t be learned. As the Tory leadership hopefuls make their pitches to the nation this week, the media are unlikely to grill them on this issue. But we must not let this problem go unreported and uncovered. We must deal with this scourge once and for all. You have now rattled a West Country cage
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Stirlingsays 13 Jul 22 6.53pm | |
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Some of this commentary seems to be living the politics of fifty years ago....which is sometimes called 'boomer truth'. It's the same language I was hearing growing up. The utopianism that has put the working classes and the vulnerable among them into this mess. All that stuff was being said decades ago....it's not the reality of the consequences of multiculturalism. The reality is that anyone saying anything loses their job...like Sarah Champion. The left run these institutions and the law protects their failed ideologies. Look at what actually happens in the real world under this thinking. The real world is Telford and all the other towns and cities. That reality is lower trust societies and a self deluding ruling class that rules by fear. There is what is said and then there is what actually happens in the real world....worthy words aren't worth anything unless they are actually reflected as reality on the ground. Nothing is going to change. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 7.47pm)
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PalazioVecchio south pole 13 Jul 22 7.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Pembroke seems to be living the politics of fifty years ago. It's the same language I was hearing growing up. The utopianism that has put the working classes and the vulnerable among them into this mess. All that stuff was being said decades ago....it's not the reality of the consequences of multiculturalism. The reality is that anyone saying anything loses their job...like Sarah Champion. The left run these institutions and the law protects their failed ideologies. Look at what actually happens in the real world under this thinking. The real world is Telford and all the other towns and cities. That reality is lower trust societies and a self deluding ruling class that rules by fear. Nothing is going to change. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 6.57pm) I believe there is a culture in Hundu-India of dealing with these Rape gangs. Mostly the story doesn't even make it into the newspapers. Rumour is that the story is hundreds of years old. In all the little villages & towns. I heard the locals don't even bother calling the cops anymore. Edited by PalazioVecchio (13 Jul 2022 7.48pm)
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Jul 22 7.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Pembroke
Who on GB news is far right? Paul Embery? Andrew Doyle? De Piero? With respect that is not an answer to the question, and you are not the quoted poster (Wisbech Eagle). The De Piero is Gloria, a former Labour MP. It was a joke based on one name being an ‘L’ away from that of a legendary Italian striker. I have literally no idea what your beef is here.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 13 Jul 22 9.18pm | |
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The blonde newsreader on gb news who got her bits out for her bf on camera- only for him to put them online after they split up- was doing a piece about revenge p*** or something similar the other day- awkward!
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Pembroke Bristol 14 Jul 22 9.35am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
It was a joke based on one name being an ‘L’ away from that of a legendary Italian striker. I have literally no idea what your beef is here. Beef? Observation. The use of far right is used to deligitimise indviduals and their views. People use fear to elevate their world view beyound others. Its a political tool. A tool that applies to Telford. Report and act on abuse and you are a ? This identity is worth more than this identity. It also wasnt a funny joke.
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Stirlingsays 14 Jul 22 9.49am | |
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Originally posted by Pembroke
Beef? Observation. The use of far right is used to deligitimise indviduals and their views. People use fear to elevate their world view beyound others. Its a political tool. A tool that applies to Telford. Report and act on abuse and you are a ? This identity is worth more than this identity. It also wasnt a funny joke. What should be used to delegitamise someone's views should be what the practical outcomes are. There are warm words and then there are outcomes. The 'far right', hold no power. They are not responsible for the tragedies out of Telford. These grooming gangs would not exist with differing attitudes to immigration. This blood isn't on their hands. I feel there is a huge distance between what people want to believe and what those beliefs actually produce.
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