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 Beastie  16 Nov 21 1.12pm |
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Originally posted by maddog
Yes our big rivals for World Cup domination! 🤣 No but we do seem to have the (quite sensible) policy of giving players a solitary cap, so they can't be nabbed later on. Nathan Redmond, James Maddison, Patrick Bamford, Alex McCarthy
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| Dubai Eagle 16 Nov 21 1.21pm |
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I would imagine that pretty much every club tells pretty much every loanee that if they do well at the loan club it may open the door for them upon their return - Lets face it there hardly going to tell them anything else. Originally posted by eagleman13
Seen these 2 reports concerning CG from 'Newsnow' on HOL home page . . .
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| maddog Wiltshire 16 Nov 21 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by Beastie
No but we do seem to have the (quite sensible) policy of giving players a solitary cap, so they can't be nabbed later on. Nathan Redmond, James Maddison, Patrick Bamford, Alex McCarthy Why would anyone do that just to stop them playing for another team? How would it help England or Southgate unless they have an intention of selecting them in future? So his intention may be to keep them available for future selection but that’s not the same as preventing them playing for another national team. It’s a matter of timing. Other national teams have an advantage in that they are able to select younger less experienced players sooner without displacing far better players. By selecting these players for the easier games, Southgate is making a statement about the future selection plans. Those plans might not work out or may be very long term: the player’s development might not continue on the same trajectory; they may have a temporary dip in form; other players may appear who are better.
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| dreamwaverider London 16 Nov 21 3.14pm |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
I would imagine that pretty much every club tells pretty much every loanee that if they do well at the loan club it may open the door for them upon their return - Lets face it there hardly going to tell them anything else. I could see him doing another season on loan with us. At Palace he is right in the limelight. He would never have got a callup for England from the Chelsea bench. You only get about 12 years as a top player. Far better to be playing first team football as the star of a team challenging for Europe than say 12 game a year for Chelsea surely?
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| dreamwaverider London 16 Nov 21 3.16pm |
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Connor must be loving his life at Palace. Staying on loan keeps the door wide open to go home plus we should secure an option to buy at an agreed fee if they don’t want him back.
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| Dubai Eagle 16 Nov 21 3.47pm |
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I would have thought so - What realistically are his options if he dosent stay with us - With every new move comes the possibility of it not working out, there is a lot to be said for staying where your wanted. Originally posted by dreamwaverider
I could see him doing another season on loan with us. At Palace he is right in the limelight. He would never have got a callup for England from the Chelsea bench. You only get about 12 years as a top player. Far better to be playing first team football as the star of a team challenging for Europe than say 12 game a year for Chelsea surely?
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| Beastie 16 Nov 21 3.51pm |
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Originally posted by maddog
Why would anyone do that just to stop them playing for another team? How would it help England or Southgate unless they have an intention of selecting them in future? So his intention may be to keep them available for future selection but that’s not the same as preventing them playing for another national team. It’s a matter of timing. Other national teams have an advantage in that they are able to select younger less experienced players sooner without displacing far better players. By selecting these players for the easier games, Southgate is making a statement about the future selection plans. Those plans might not work out or may be very long term: the player’s development might not continue on the same trajectory; they may have a temporary dip in form; other players may appear who are better. Don't get what you're arguing. Obviously getting players who have other options, committed to England is good for the future plans.
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| MrRobbo Chaldon 16 Nov 21 4.30pm |
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Originally posted by maddog
Chelsea don’t need to sell him though. If he is not near their first team level (but he will be!) we may get a further loan. The don't need to sell him, but there seams to have been a shift of policy at Chelsea of late. Guehi, Livramento and Tomori were touted for the top
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| maddog Wiltshire 16 Nov 21 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by Beastie
Don't get what you're arguing. Obviously getting players who have other options, committed to England is good for the future plans. Yes I think that’s pretty much my argument. It’s about lining players up to play for England when they are ready. It’s not about stopping a player playing for another national side. The answer is c) Southgate selected Gallagher because he thinks he is a great player who will get better every game he plays. And he is right!
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| silvertop Portishead 16 Nov 21 7.00pm |
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Originally posted by maddog
Yes our big rivals for World Cup domination! 🤣 I don’t get what’s so hard to understand. Gallagher is a quality footballer - and those hoping to keep this a closely guarded Palace secret from other teams scouts are not paying attention. Everyone in English football already knows that he is destined for bigger things and even if we had broken the bank and signed him on a permanent contract last summer (which we couldn’t afford to do even then!) we would be worrying about him leaving to a bigger club next summer. ... for an even bigger fee
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| silvertop Portishead 16 Nov 21 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by maddog
Yes I think that’s pretty much my argument. It’s about lining players up to play for England when they are ready. It’s not about stopping a player playing for another national side. The answer is c) Southgate selected Gallagher because he thinks he is a great player who will get better every game he plays. And he is right! Damn! I was going to say b)
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thai-eagle  chiang mai 18 Nov 21 1.21pm |
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Hope his mate Guehi and Dougie sweet-talk him into a 3-year contract. He will still be only 24 and here he is more or less guaranteed place in starting 11. Not so at Stamford Bridge....
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