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dannyboy1978 01 Nov 19 1.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle
Chuck in severely taking their eye off the ball which lead to the biggest finance crisis this country had seen in a generation and will be a burden for generations to come to pay for. Blair and Brown really couldn't have done much worse. No more boom and bust lol
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 01 Nov 19 1.41pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
No more boom and bust lol I'm not a massive supporter of Labour, or any political party, frankly. I vote because I should, not because I am in rapture to their false claims and attempts at equivalence. But if this narrative means you think anyone other than Labour could have foreseen, or dodged, the great recession, you're an idiot. But then we already... Edited by SW19 CPFC (01 Nov 2019 1.51pm)
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DanH SW2 01 Nov 19 1.49pm | |
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If Farage follows through with his threat to stand a Brexit MP in every seat he could hilariously defeat both Remain and Leave. Scenes.
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W12 01 Nov 19 1.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Jway89
I see Farage wants a pact but, cleverly, tells Johnson to scrap his deal, because, he would lose credibility if he said anything else. Don't get me wrong, The Eurozone, financially is a mess, but I'm not seeing any other option being better. We are in polarising times and it's either capitalism or communism, apparently, which is exactly how the media and politicians like it. My advice is save your money, because times are gonna get harder. If you see China and the US as interchangable and equivalent then that may make some sense. Why do you think Hong King protestors were waving the American flag? The problem we have is that the ideals of the West that created both the richest, most free and most culturally rich heretige have been undermined by liberalism (which is ironically a by-product of that success). It's at the heart of Brexit, Trump and the culture wars currently raging across all across the western nations.
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 01 Nov 19 2.04pm | |
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It wont be the same deal on the table if Boris gets a sizeable majority.
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 01 Nov 19 2.12pm | |
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Originally posted by sickboy
It wont be the same deal on the table if Boris gets a sizeable majority. Is this even possible due to a) law, b) parliamentary procedure, c) the EU?
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Nov 19 2.13pm | |
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Originally posted by sickboy
It wont be the same deal on the table if Boris gets a sizeable majority. He has hung his colours to the mast apropos the deal and he just wants to "Get Brexit done" so no chance of that scenario coming to pass.
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 01 Nov 19 2.29pm | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Is this even possible due to a) law, b) parliamentary procedure, c) the EU? Of course it is. Acts of parliament get repealed.
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Deleted11 01 Nov 19 2.31pm | |
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Originally posted by W12
If you see China and the US as interchangable and equivalent then that may make some sense. Why do you think Hong Kong protestors were waving the American flag? The problem we have is that the ideals of the West that created both the richest, most free and most culturally rich heretige have been undermined by liberalism (which is ironically a by-product of that success). It's at the heart of Brexit, Trump and the culture wars currently raging across all across the western nations. So, are you making an argument for authoritarianism? I know you're not. I wouldn't describe myself as left or right really, I just want things to be discussed in a proper way, analysed and then implemented with strict monitoring of the effects of any policy as well as the environmental factors that policy was implemented in. The best example is austerity. Do we 'the people' need to live within our means? I'd say to a certain extent yes, but the people are not a country that can print its own money. If I'm saving £100 a month while I'm earning £20k a year, I'm not going to start saving £400 a month, because I'll be miserable, what I may do though is look for a better paid job and potentially educate myself a bit more to have a better chance of that. Our Government can print it's way out of trouble, to certain extent. I've gone a bit too long here, but my point is that I see the benefits in autocratic countries as well as in (and I use this word very lightly) democracies.
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Stirlingsays 01 Nov 19 2.47pm | |
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Originally posted by W12
Labour started mass immigration and "multiculturalism" which is now destablalising the entire country. Labour paid for this by putting us into huge amounts of national debt. Labour helped start a war in the middle east that spread islamic extremism across the globe. Of course you could just replace Labour with Blair but he was aided and abbetted by numerous other Fabians. It's no accident that they use the symbol of a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Yep, few do hypocrisy like the Labour party. The Tories are also hypocrites of course but it's Labour who pretend to hold a kind of moral high ground over them. Plenty were slagging him off for years in Labour but I remember Blair receiving standing ovations at his last party conference speech and at his last commons speech as PM. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Nov 2019 2.49pm)
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W12 01 Nov 19 2.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Jway89
So, are you making an argument for authoritarianism? I know you're not. I wouldn't describe myself as left or right really, I just want things to be discussed in a proper way, analysed and then implemented with strict monitoring of the effects of any policy as well as the environmental factors that policy was implemented in. The best example is austerity. Do we 'the people' need to live within our means? I'd say to a certain extent yes, but the people are not a country that can print its own money. If I'm saving £100 a month while I'm earning £20k a year, I'm not going to start saving £400 a month, because I'll be miserable, what I may do though is look for a better paid job and potentially educate myself a bit more to have a better chance of that. Our Government can print it's way out of trouble, to certain extent. I've gone a bit too long here, but my point is that I see the benefits in autocratic countries as well as in (and I use this word very lightly) democracies. Liberalism as currently defined in the west is the very opposite of freedom
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Deleted11 01 Nov 19 2.54pm | |
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Ok, but what does freedom mean then? I'm not sure what point you're making here, sorry.
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