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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 27 Jun 19 8.59pm | |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
b) he has lots of little companies setup which he then charges Palace fees to use them so he is taking money away the clear one most people have heard of is Smoke and Mirrors. c) I have read all of the account details. the guy is not even putting any of his own money into the club and look at commercial side it's poor yet he is suppose to be a top business man (look at West Ham owners that is proper business men) he makes the same mistakes every year. People need to quit with the whole saved the club rubbish a long time has passed now cant keep using that to defend his mistakes and lack of moving forward. Edited by grumpymort (26 Jun 2019 11.17pm) a) how does he “suck” at advancing the club? he has taken us from a bottom half championship club to a mid-table PL club in less than 10 years. b) yes i have heard about smoke & mirrors, i assume they make all the videos/pics for our social media content...so he charges the club for doing so, hardly a crime or a huge amount of money in the grand scheme of things, its like what sako earnt in a month on a yearly basis. c) if you had read the accounts you would see that we lost 40m so anyway of selling to invest in the team cant be seen as an issue by fans. football nowadays is a business, like it or not thats the fact...its not like the good old days when a local boy done well businessman can run things on his own and break even. lets make no bones about it, is SP perfect? nope, but does he have our best interests at heart? yes he does. you remember peter risdale who owned leeds? im sure you do, local boy done good who brought his childhood club and overspent and f***ed them good & proper...well, parish isnt that person, and we should be grateful.
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MikeCrete Crete 27 Jun 19 9.35pm | |
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Originally posted by woody6013
Dont know whether its a good move so early in his career, and there's a long road ahead. Maybe he needs to be reminded of what happened to Wilf., and stay put . At his age he doesnt need the money (in my opinion) as he will get much more 3/4/5 years ahead. Benteke gets 13 times his wage a week! Only so long people in any walk of life put up with that, if Benteke had gone to China we could have made AWB an offer & he might have accepted it for another year. Once his head was turned best to let him go & hopefully use the funds to improve the team.
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MikeCrete Crete 27 Jun 19 9.47pm | |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
a) how does he “suck” at advancing the club? he has taken us from a bottom half championship club to a mid-table PL club in less than 10 years. b) yes i have heard about smoke & mirrors, i assume they make all the videos/pics for our social media content...so he charges the club for doing so, hardly a crime or a huge amount of money in the grand scheme of things, its like what sako earnt in a month on a yearly basis. c) if you had read the accounts you would see that we lost 40m so anyway of selling to invest in the team cant be seen as an issue by fans. football nowadays is a business, like it or not thats the fact...its not like the good old days when a local boy done well businessman can run things on his own and break even. lets make no bones about it, is SP perfect? nope, but does he have our best interests at heart? yes he does. you remember peter risdale who owned leeds? im sure you do, local boy done good who brought his childhood club and overspent and f***ed them good & proper...well, parish isnt that person, and we should be grateful.
Leeds is a very good example, as is Sunderland. We have had enough drama court wise for a lifetime, stability may be a tad dull but we need to get a bigger revenue stream before we can really push on. Those of us of an older generation can recall false dawns & they are not worth it. Be happy we have a Chairman who cherishes the club, but wont risk its future for teh chance of short term glory.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jun 19 10.22am | |
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Originally posted by zico murphy
If you were to draw a trajectory of the clubs progress on a graph from 1905 to now for league position, crowds, internationals etc you’d find since Parish has been in charge we’ve never been in a better place. I just don’t understand what he’s got to do before some people are happy. He used to come on these boards and communicate with fans which was refreshing. I guess he realised it wasn’t possible to please all despite his best efforts, success and stopped which is a real shame. For me he has to go down as the best chairman the club has had in my lifetime (55) and possibly the best ever. I hope he reads this because I’d like him to know not all fans are on his back and some fans appreciate his efforts and want him to continue the good work. I can beat you by 20 years and I agree. When I first started supporting there was just the main stand and 3 terraces. You could walk from the Holmesdale to the "Sainsbury" end at halftime. We were a small club about to become a founder member of Division 4. Since then it's been a roller coaster, but one which is now going up and shows no sign of plunging to the depths again. Someday we will slip into the Championship for a season or two. That's inevitable but the base we now have will enable us to recover. We may not yet be a big club but we are now one to be reckoned with. We are taken seriously and respected by others. To go from the bottom tier to being a regular member of the top one is quite an achievement. To do it without an infusion of unlimited funds from a super rich investor doubly so. So those carping about what SP has overseen need to take a step back. You cannot please all the people all the time but this old supporter is pleased.
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pssguy 28 Jun 19 11.14am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
So those carping about what SP has overseen need to take a step back. You cannot please all the people all the time but this old supporter is pleased. You are talking too much sense. Watch out for some moaner coming on saying 'Sell Johnny Byrne and we'll be out of the League never to return'
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thechaddyboy Peterborough 28 Jun 19 12.37pm | |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
b) he has lots of little companies setup which he then charges Palace fees to use them so he is taking money away the clear one most people have heard of is Smoke and Mirrors. c) I have read all of the account details. the guy is not even putting any of his own money into the club and look at commercial side it's poor yet he is suppose to be a top business man (look at West Ham owners that is proper business men) he makes the same mistakes every year. People need to quit with the whole saved the club rubbish a long time has passed now cant keep using that to defend his mistakes and lack of moving forward. Edited by grumpymort (26 Jun 2019 11.17pm) Yeah, lets get a billionaire in, no guarantee he'll invest anything other than the original stake though. No love for the club, we'd be no more than another investment, something to fill the w&*k bank with, "Oh, I own a Premier club". Having watched Palace since 73 I'll never forget how close we came to losing everything, to make light of the work that SP & Co did is ignorance, are you even Palace ?
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est1905 28 Jun 19 5.14pm | |
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Originally posted by thechaddyboy
Yeah, lets get a billionaire in, no guarantee he'll invest anything other than the original stake though. No love for the club, we'd be no more than another investment, something to fill the w&*k bank with, "Oh, I own a Premier club". Having watched Palace since 73 I'll never forget how close we came to losing everything, to make light of the work that SP & Co did is ignorance, are you even Palace ? Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion.
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zico murphy woking 28 Jun 19 6.03pm | |
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Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion. Your giving Parish no credit for the position we’re in which is our best ever, that’s just down to luck ? Yeah he’s made some mistakes, who doesn’t (I’m sure he’d probably do some things differently with the Benefit of hindsight). He’s the decision maker though and he doesn’t have the luxury of analysing from afar and offering opinions of how things could be done differently (like us fans). If your going to analyse his every mistake though you should also give credit where credits due. In my opinion if his stint as chairman was over today the history books would show him as our best ever chairman. I’m not saying people shouldn’t criticise him, nobody’s above criticism. I think it’s unfair though he’s criticised on every decision that doesn’t turn out to be for the best without balancing this with everything he gets right and my opinion he’s got far more right than wrong. like for instance getting the ground in the deal for the club which as Goldberg found out would’ve been a massive mistake not have insisted on this.
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davehuggins 28 Jun 19 6.32pm | |
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Nicely put Zico, we are without doubt in a better position than ever before and SP has to take credit for that.
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thechaddyboy Peterborough 28 Jun 19 7.51pm | |
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Originally posted by est1905
Bit childish to question if the bloke is a fan. He's entitled to his opinion. It was a gamble, regardless of what it cost them & what it may be worth today there wasn't anyone else breaking their necks to pull us out of the pit, yeah he's made mistakes but there's always a minority quick to throw him under the bus everytime someone with a few quid in their a*se pocket shows any interest.
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PatrickA London 28 Jun 19 9.48pm | |
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The future direction of the club seems more uncertain than for a number of years.
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Petereagle Brockley 29 Jun 19 12.59pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
The future direction of the club seems more uncertain than for a number of years. A very good post. The positive side of this is that Roy Hodgson is a good and good judge of players. It’s a dangerous time for the club if Zaha follows AWB out of the door, but as long as Hodgson and Parish keep their nerve as to which players come in to replace them, we should be OK....hopefully they can also bring in a few young players of PL quality to increase the depth of talent...A big ask and easy to get it wrong
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