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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Feb 19 12.51am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have been reading some of the other threads in this section and one thing stands out above all other. That there really is a hard core of posters here who represent all that is wrong with our current political scene. The subjects may vary but the approach is constant. You see the same kind of thing now in a variety of places. Trump and Brexit has loosened the tongues of those who previously felt restrained by knowing that others perceived their views as extreme. I thought that the UK had managed to become a tolerant place where otherness wasn't something to be scared of and that no one group felt superior or entitled. My own parents were terribly racist, but they came from a generation which didn't know any better. How has our education system failed so badly that the attitudes that I grew up with, but learned to overcome, are still openly present in society? I read all the justifications and reasonings, which I guess those writing them truly believe are real, but it seems very clear to me that something much more basic lies underneath. So the OP was right to ask the question he did. I am ashamed to say I think it is correct. Maybe by 2050, when the UK's population is forecasted to have around 20% of the people with mixed blood in their genes we will start to see a kinder, more compassionate nature start to emerge. Of course we all have mixed blood already, but the new blood comes from further away. I won't be here to see it, which is unfortunate, but I don't want my grandchildren to be growing up in this poisonous atmosphere. There is a lot I could say on some of the other threads as some of the comments have been outrageous but I won't. There is no point in ever arguing with such attitudes. You must expose them to others and then allow them to destroy themselves. Shame on you though. Maybe I should find 7 members from here and 3 from the BBS and go form an independent forum where common sense prevails and extremism is relegated to the history books. That's the beauty of living in a democracy. There is nothing stopping you from doing that.
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Stirlingsays 21 Feb 19 1.16am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have been reading some of the other threads in this section and one thing stands out above all other. That there really is a hard core of posters here who represent all that is wrong with our current political scene. The subjects may vary but the approach is constant. You see the same kind of thing now in a variety of places. Trump and Brexit has loosened the tongues of those who previously felt restrained by knowing that others perceived their views as extreme. I thought that the UK had managed to become a tolerant place where otherness wasn't something to be scared of and that no one group felt superior or entitled. My own parents were terribly racist, but they came from a generation which didn't know any better. How has our education system failed so badly that the attitudes that I grew up with, but learned to overcome, are still openly present in society? I read all the justifications and reasonings, which I guess those writing them truly believe are real, but it seems very clear to me that something much more basic lies underneath. So the OP was right to ask the question he did. I am ashamed to say I think it is correct. Maybe by 2050, when the UK's population is forecasted to have around 20% of the people with mixed blood in their genes we will start to see a kinder, more compassionate nature start to emerge. Of course we all have mixed blood already, but the new blood comes from further away. I won't be here to see it, which is unfortunate, but I don't want my grandchildren to be growing up in this poisonous atmosphere. There is a lot I could say on some of the other threads as some of the comments have been outrageous but I won't. There is no point in ever arguing with such attitudes. You must expose them to others and then allow them to destroy themselves. Shame on you though. Maybe I should find 7 members from here and 3 from the BBS and go form an independent forum where common sense prevails and extremism is relegated to the history books.
Ok just go and form your forum, it sounds really exciting...bye bye. You won't though will you.....Instead you'll just waffle and spend your time occasionally displaying your self perceived moral superiority to others with posts like this. Personally I don't care what you think and even less what you do. If you don't like Hol, nothing is keeping you here.
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Pussay Patrol 21 Feb 19 5.58am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have been reading some of the other threads in this section and one thing stands out above all other. That there really is a hard core of posters here who represent all that is wrong with our current political scene. The subjects may vary but the approach is constant. You see the same kind of thing now in a variety of places. Trump and Brexit has loosened the tongues of those who previously felt restrained by knowing that others perceived their views as extreme. I thought that the UK had managed to become a tolerant place where otherness wasn't something to be scared of and that no one group felt superior or entitled. My own parents were terribly racist, but they came from a generation which didn't know any better. How has our education system failed so badly that the attitudes that I grew up with, but learned to overcome, are still openly present in society? I read all the justifications and reasonings, which I guess those writing them truly believe are real, but it seems very clear to me that something much more basic lies underneath. So the OP was right to ask the question he did. I am ashamed to say I think it is correct. Maybe by 2050, when the UK's population is forecasted to have around 20% of the people with mixed blood in their genes we will start to see a kinder, more compassionate nature start to emerge. Of course we all have mixed blood already, but the new blood comes from further away. I won't be here to see it, which is unfortunate, but I don't want my grandchildren to be growing up in this poisonous atmosphere. There is a lot I could say on some of the other threads as some of the comments have been outrageous but I won't. There is no point in ever arguing with such attitudes. You must expose them to others and then allow them to destroy themselves. Shame on you though. Maybe I should find 7 members from here and 3 from the BBS and go form an independent forum where common sense prevails and extremism is relegated to the history books. Great post and agree every word, you'll probably get responses telling you to go somewhere else but I suppose your points about ignorance responded with more ignorance reinforces your point I do wonder though if actually it's more of an internet phenomenon, people seem to be outraged and emboldened but from the relative safety and anonymity of their PC. They sing the praises of characters like Tommy Robinson but wouldn't dare do so in public in or attend a rally. Spending your life typing on football message boards is hardly Standing up for what you believe
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dannyboy1978 21 Feb 19 7.09am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have been reading some of the other threads in this section and one thing stands out above all other. That there really is a hard core of posters here who represent all that is wrong with our current political scene. The subjects may vary but the approach is constant. You see the same kind of thing now in a variety of places. Trump and Brexit has loosened the tongues of those who previously felt restrained by knowing that others perceived their views as extreme. I thought that the UK had managed to become a tolerant place where otherness wasn't something to be scared of and that no one group felt superior or entitled. My own parents were terribly racist, but they came from a generation which didn't know any better. How has our education system failed so badly that the attitudes that I grew up with, but learned to overcome, are still openly present in society? I read all the justifications and reasonings, which I guess those writing them truly believe are real, but it seems very clear to me that something much more basic lies underneath. So the OP was right to ask the question he did. I am ashamed to say I think it is correct. Maybe by 2050, when the UK's population is forecasted to have around 20% of the people with mixed blood in their genes we will start to see a kinder, more compassionate nature start to emerge. Of course we all have mixed blood already, but the new blood comes from further away. I won't be here to see it, which is unfortunate, but I don't want my grandchildren to be growing up in this poisonous atmosphere. There is a lot I could say on some of the other threads as some of the comments have been outrageous but I won't. There is no point in ever arguing with such attitudes. You must expose them to others and then allow them to destroy themselves. Shame on you though. Maybe I should find 7 members from here and 3 from the BBS and go form an independent forum where common sense prevails and extremism is relegated to the history books. What are you some sort of Frankenstein? What is wrong with black white and Asian people as they are? Do you think china, Japan, Korea even the whole of Africa is bad because they arnt mixing races? Are these not "kind people already "? Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Feb 2019 7.11am) Edited by dannyboy1978 (21 Feb 2019 7.21am)
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cryrst The garden of England 21 Feb 19 7.19am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have been reading some of the other threads in this section and one thing stands out above all other. That there really is a hard core of posters here who represent all that is wrong with our current political scene. The subjects may vary but the approach is constant. You see the same kind of thing now in a variety of places. Trump and Brexit has loosened the tongues of those who previously felt restrained by knowing that others perceived their views as extreme. I thought that the UK had managed to become a tolerant place where otherness wasn't something to be scared of and that no one group felt superior or entitled. My own parents were terribly racist, but they came from a generation which didn't know any better. How has our education system failed so badly that the attitudes that I grew up with, but learned to overcome, are still openly present in society? I read all the justifications and reasonings, which I guess those writing them truly believe are real, but it seems very clear to me that something much more basic lies underneath. So the OP was right to ask the question he did. I am ashamed to say I think it is correct. Maybe by 2050, when the UK's population is forecasted to have around 20% of the people with mixed blood in their genes we will start to see a kinder, more compassionate nature start to emerge. Of course we all have mixed blood already, but the new blood comes from further away. I won't be here to see it, which is unfortunate, but I don't want my grandchildren to be growing up in this poisonous atmosphere. There is a lot I could say on some of the other threads as some of the comments have been outrageous but I won't. There is no point in ever arguing with such attitudes. You must expose them to others and then allow them to destroy themselves. Shame on you though. Maybe I should find 7 members from here and 3 from the BBS and go form an independent forum where common sense prevails and extremism is relegated to the history books. What you have been afraid to put is that racism is rife as you dont know how to!
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ChrisGC Wantage 21 Feb 19 8.13am | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Great post and agree every word, you'll probably get responses telling you to go somewhere else but I suppose your points about ignorance responded with more ignorance reinforces your point I do wonder though if actually it's more of an internet phenomenon, people seem to be outraged and emboldened but from the relative safety and anonymity of their PC. They sing the praises of characters like Tommy Robinson but wouldn't dare do so in public in or attend a rally. Spending your life typing on football message boards is hardly Standing up for what you believe You love chipping in with ironic posts.
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ChrisGC Wantage 21 Feb 19 8.17am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have been reading some of the other threads in this section and one thing stands out above all other. That there really is a hard core of posters here who represent all that is wrong with our current political scene. The subjects may vary but the approach is constant. You see the same kind of thing now in a variety of places. Trump and Brexit has loosened the tongues of those who previously felt restrained by knowing that others perceived their views as extreme. I thought that the UK had managed to become a tolerant place where otherness wasn't something to be scared of and that no one group felt superior or entitled. My own parents were terribly racist, but they came from a generation which didn't know any better. How has our education system failed so badly that the attitudes that I grew up with, but learned to overcome, are still openly present in society? I read all the justifications and reasonings, which I guess those writing them truly believe are real, but it seems very clear to me that something much more basic lies underneath. So the OP was right to ask the question he did. I am ashamed to say I think it is correct. Maybe by 2050, when the UK's population is forecasted to have around 20% of the people with mixed blood in their genes we will start to see a kinder, more compassionate nature start to emerge. Of course we all have mixed blood already, but the new blood comes from further away. I won't be here to see it, which is unfortunate, but I don't want my grandchildren to be growing up in this poisonous atmosphere. There is a lot I could say on some of the other threads as some of the comments have been outrageous but I won't. There is no point in ever arguing with such attitudes. You must expose them to others and then allow them to destroy themselves. Shame on you though. Maybe I should find 7 members from here and 3 from the BBS and go form an independent forum where common sense prevails and extremism is relegated to the history books. "I have no respect for other people's beliefs and have a world vision based on my idea of racial perfection" Very tolerant.
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ChrisGC Wantage 21 Feb 19 8.19am | |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
That's the beauty of living in a democracy. There is nothing stopping you from doing that. There is. A lack of ability and support.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Feb 19 9.25am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
What you have been afraid to put is that racism is rife as you dont know how to! I don’t remember John Barnes getting racist abuse. There were a few black lads in the Arfur singing area. One was on Press Gang with Dexter Fletcher on itv. It happened at other grounds but not Palace. You were more likely to have gazza get fattist abuse, and he did. He picked up and ate a mars bar thrown at him. John Fashanu did get whistles and cooeys days after Justin came out as gay in the press. He scored that day. Edited by Rudi Hedman (21 Feb 2019 10.08am)
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 21 Feb 19 10.24am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I don’t remember John Barnes getting racist abuse. There were a few black lads in the Arfur singing area. One was on Press Gang with Dexter Fletcher on itv. It happened at other grounds but not Palace. You were more likely to have gazza get fattist abuse, and he did. He picked up and ate a mars bar thrown at him. John Fashanu did get whistles and cooeys days after Justin came out as gay in the press. He scored that day. Edited by Rudi Hedman (21 Feb 2019 10.08am) I don't remember it at Selhurst either. But there were stories of people chucking bananas at him elsewhere - whether they were true or not, I don't know.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 19 10.46am | |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
"I have no respect for other people's beliefs and have a world vision based on my idea of racial perfection" Very tolerant. No-one should ever respect or tolerate racism or the attitudes that spring from it. It ought to be a red line in every society that wishes to be respected itself.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Feb 19 10.52am | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
I don't remember it at Selhurst either. But there were stories of people chucking bananas at him elsewhere - whether they were true or not, I don't know. Because it didn’t happen at Selhurst. He did have bananas chucked at him but I don’t know how many times it happened.
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