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Dangermouse Flag Hastings 23 Aug 17 9.38pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Out of interest can anyone tell me who are the DoF's at the other prem clubs and what their qualifications are? Can anyone tell me what each club expects their DoF's to do? Thanks in anticipation.

 


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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 23 Aug 17 9.55pm

Originally posted by Dangermouse

Out of interest can anyone tell me who are the DoF's at the other prem clubs and what their qualifications are? Can anyone tell me what each club expects their DoF's to do? Thanks in anticipation.

The general job description of a DoF is to be snidey and sneery about everything a football manager does, watching from up high above them in the stands on a match day. Secondly, always be looking to stab the manager in the back and jump in their warm dugout, after you've manipulated their demise.

 


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tonymikejoe Flag UK 23 Aug 17 10.30pm Send a Private Message to tonymikejoe Add tonymikejoe as a friend

It always amuses me that the Freedman Out! thread on the Bolton Wanders' Fans forum reached a monstrous 269 pages.

[Link]

He has clearly only secured the role because of his CPFC links, but to be fair he is a net contributor to the club - a rarity.

Surely judged on his achievements at Bolton, then Nottingham Forest, he fails to warrant senior appointment at a Premier League club.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Aug 17 10.36pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

Surely judged on his achievements at Bolton, then Nottingham Forest, he fails to warrant senior appointment at a Premier League club.

Why don't you tell Steve Parish that he doesn't know what he is doing then

 

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Direwolf Flag Lincoln 24 Aug 17 8.08am Send a Private Message to Direwolf Add Direwolf as a friend

Originally posted by Dangermouse

Out of interest can anyone tell me who are the DoF's at the other prem clubs and what their qualifications are? Can anyone tell me what each club expects their DoF's to do? Thanks in anticipation.

This article from 2004 seems to debate the role before more widespread adoption in the Premier League.
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Aray Flag South London 24 Aug 17 9.19am Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

If it helps, I spent some time with Dougie Freedman a few years back. We were on the same coaching course, he had just taken on the reserves at Palace (I think) having been mentored by Warnock.

Freedman came across as a polite but reserved man. Happy to talk frankly about football when approached, but certainly not one for the pub or the limelight. Even considering that many of the class didn't know each other, I was still surprised at how distant he seemed. Plenty of big names in our class relaxed and thawed out, but Dougie remained slightly detached. He was meticulous and very professional, and though he loved football he was at pains to avoid any of the celebrity side of it, and seemed to be there exclusively for the qualification rather than to make friends with anyone. I found professional footballers to be a nice bunch, but it is a bit of a closed shop / old pals network sort of gig, so Freedman stood out as bit by showing no interest in forming contacts or social climbing.

His attitude to being a Palace legend sort of summed him up. He was very appreciative of what palace had given him, and proud of what he had given back, but these seemed like professional achievements more than emotional ones. He lived in Essex rather than South London partly because he wasn’t comfortable with being a ‘legend’ as he went about his daily business. When he became manager I think a lot of us saw a continuation of Dougie the player, this brilliant, skilful, imaginative goalscorer who gave Palace so many highlights and was so loved for it, and couldn’t accept that he could break that bond to go to Bolton. In actual fact, whether as a player or a manager I think we are talking about a very professional man rather than an emotional one. He played for and managed us because we were his best employment option, gave us full value for money and then some every time, and that’s doubtless what he’ll be doing this time round.

He’s a serious guy, will be here for serious reasons. It's irrelevant that he played here, managed here, and left here before.

A very interesting post - thanks TheBigToePunt

 

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Username Flag Horsham 24 Aug 17 9.32am Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Originally posted by tonymikejoe

It always amuses me that the Freedman Out! thread on the Bolton Wanders' Fans forum reached a monstrous 269 pages.

[Link]

He has clearly only secured the role because of his CPFC links, but to be fair he is a net contributor to the club - a rarity.

Surely judged on his achievements at Bolton, then Nottingham Forest, he fails to warrant senior appointment at a Premier League club.

Completely different role.

 


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andyg Flag york 24 Aug 17 10.25am Send a Private Message to andyg Add andyg as a friend

Originally posted by Dangermouse

Out of interest can anyone tell me who are the DoF's at the other prem clubs and what their qualifications are? Can anyone tell me what each club expects their DoF's to do? Thanks in anticipation.

[Link]

telegraph slideshow on current DoFs as of April. 6 clubs (including us and relegated Hull and Middlesboro) did not have a DoF.

Doesnt have a great amount of detail but most appear to be former coaches and mostly ex players

 

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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 24 Aug 17 11.50am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

If it helps, I spent some time with Dougie Freedman a few years back. We were on the same coaching course, he had just taken on the reserves at Palace (I think) having been mentored by Warnock.

Freedman came across as a polite but reserved man. Happy to talk frankly about football when approached, but certainly not one for the pub or the limelight. Even considering that many of the class didn't know each other, I was still surprised at how distant he seemed. Plenty of big names in our class relaxed and thawed out, but Dougie remained slightly detached. He was meticulous and very professional, and though he loved football he was at pains to avoid any of the celebrity side of it, and seemed to be there exclusively for the qualification rather than to make friends with anyone. I found professional footballers to be a nice bunch, but it is a bit of a closed shop / old pals network sort of gig, so Freedman stood out as bit by showing no interest in forming contacts or social climbing.

His attitude to being a Palace legend sort of summed him up. He was very appreciative of what palace had given him, and proud of what he had given back, but these seemed like professional achievements more than emotional ones. He lived in Essex rather than South London partly because he wasn’t comfortable with being a ‘legend’ as he went about his daily business. When he became manager I think a lot of us saw a continuation of Dougie the player, this brilliant, skilful, imaginative goalscorer who gave Palace so many highlights and was so loved for it, and couldn’t accept that he could break that bond to go to Bolton. In actual fact, whether as a player or a manager I think we are talking about a very professional man rather than an emotional one. He played for and managed us because we were his best employment option, gave us full value for money and then some every time, and that’s doubtless what he’ll be doing this time round.

He’s a serious guy, will be here for serious reasons. It's irrelevant that he played here, managed here, and left here before.


Wasn't Gary Neville in the same group as well?

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Aug 17 12.14pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550


Wasn't Gary Neville in the same group as well?

Important question. Who was best at football at break and which 2 were picked last?

 


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Part Time James Flag 24 Aug 17 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

The general job description of a DoF is to be snidey and sneery about everything a football manager does, watching from up high above them in the stands on a match day. Secondly, always be looking to stab the manager in the back and jump in their warm dugout, after you've manipulated their demise.

If anything he might be over qualified?

 




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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Aug 17 12.18pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

If anything he might be over qualified?

Ha!

 


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