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jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Apr 17 9.57am
Originally posted by becky I've just seen tis article in today's express - the first pictures of the young man - supposedly beaten to within an inch of his life according to all the first reports. So, how do you explain that 4 days on, there is no visible swelling to his face nor any signs of the major bruising that you would expect after such a brutal beating apparent on his arms? [Link] One possible answer is that the photo was taken earlier so the bruising hasn't yet developed, but swelling occurs almost instantly, and certainly within an hour. Or an I just being cynical about some of the reporting of this?. Possibly because the near fatal injury was an internal bleed into the brain. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 06 Apr 17 9.57am

Originally posted by becky

I've just seen tis article in today's express - the first pictures of the young man - supposedly beaten to within an inch of his life according to all the first reports. So, how do you explain that 4 days on, there is no visible swelling to his face nor any signs of the major bruising that you would expect after such a brutal beating apparent on his arms?

[Link]

One possible answer is that the photo was taken earlier so the bruising hasn't yet developed, but swelling occurs almost instantly, and certainly within an hour.

Or an I just being cynical about some of the reporting of this?.

Possibly because the near fatal injury was an internal bleed into the brain.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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becky over the moon 06 Apr 17 10.00am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Think you need some new glasses becks. His eyelids and around are black and blue. Also, if he got viciously kicked whilst on the ground it would probably be bruising to his body. The attack took place and it was nasty according to the witnesses so far but if the media have exaggerated it - of course they have - it doesn't sound like it has been by too much. Yes, indeed he looks very dark around the eyelids - which would imply that there were blows to the face and head - so where is the swelling that would normally accompany this? Also, even if the main beating was to the body, wouldn't he have used his arms to protect either his body and/or his face, and thus also been bruised? I'm not saying that it wasn't a nasty beating, but the photos do not seem to bear out the severity that was reported. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 06 Apr 17 10.00am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Think you need some new glasses becks. His eyelids and around are black and blue. Also, if he got viciously kicked whilst on the ground it would probably be bruising to his body.

The attack took place and it was nasty according to the witnesses so far but if the media have exaggerated it - of course they have - it doesn't sound like it has been by too much.

Yes, indeed he looks very dark around the eyelids - which would imply that there were blows to the face and head - so where is the swelling that would normally accompany this?

Also, even if the main beating was to the body, wouldn't he have used his arms to protect either his body and/or his face, and thus also been bruised?

I'm not saying that it wasn't a nasty beating, but the photos do not seem to bear out the severity that was reported.

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Oliver Bodega Bay 06 Apr 17 10.06am
Originally posted by susmik I read in one paper that the guy was in the pub and was having a ruckus with some other people and it spilled out onto the street and he was not stood at a bus stop minding his own business as was previously reported. It shows how different news outlets have a different idea to what we have been told? I'm interested what paper was it in I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.
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Bodega Bay 06 Apr 17 10.06am

Originally posted by susmik

I read in one paper that the guy was in the pub and was having a ruckus with some other people and it spilled out onto the street and he was not stood at a bus stop minding his own business as was previously reported. It shows how different news outlets have a different idea to what we have been told?

I'm interested what paper was it in

I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Apr 17 10.24am
Originally posted by Oliver I'm interested what paper was it in Der Stürmer? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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hedgehog50

Croydon 06 Apr 17 10.24am

Originally posted by Oliver

I'm interested what paper was it in

Der Stürmer?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 10.31am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Any rise in 'hate' crimes here since Brexit will seem like a tambourine-infested Kumbaya picnic compared to what will be unleashed in France should the Far Right/Le Pen have their 'moment' and win the election. And it won't be just those of an Arabic hue that will be the recipients of their 'celebrations' Are you now a "soothsayer" Kermit? All your latest posts predict Doom... like that character "Senna the soothsayer" in Up Pompeii who used to shout out "Woe, Woe and thrice Woe" to Lurkio (Frankie Howerd)! Edited by Hoof Hearted (07 Apr 2017 10.32am) Attachment: senna the soothsayer.jpg (7.33Kb)
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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 10.31am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Any rise in 'hate' crimes here since Brexit will seem like a tambourine-infested Kumbaya picnic compared to what will be unleashed in France should the Far Right/Le Pen have their 'moment' and win the election.

And it won't be just those of an Arabic hue that will be the recipients of their 'celebrations'

Are you now a "soothsayer" Kermit?

All your latest posts predict Doom... like that character "Senna the soothsayer" in Up Pompeii who used to shout out "Woe, Woe and thrice Woe" to Lurkio (Frankie Howerd)!

Edited by Hoof Hearted (07 Apr 2017 10.32am)

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hedgehog50 Croydon 06 Apr 17 10.36am
Surely Private Frazer is more appropriate for Kermit, what with his solid Scottish roots? Attachment: frazer.jpg (7.65Kb) We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 06 Apr 17 10.36am

Surely Private Frazer is more appropriate for Kermit, what with his solid Scottish roots?

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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 10.37am
Originally posted by Oliver I think you're being cynical the attack left him unconscious, with a fractured skull and spine and a blood clot on the brain And you know all this with 100% accuracy of certainty do you? Or... like the rest of us... you are relying upon "information" supplied by the Media based upon hearsay and misinterpretation probably. Or were you one of the Ambulance crew first at the scene?
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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 10.37am

Originally posted by Oliver

I think you're being cynical the attack left him unconscious, with a fractured skull and spine and a blood clot on the brain

And you know all this with 100% accuracy of certainty do you?

Or... like the rest of us... you are relying upon "information" supplied by the Media based upon hearsay and misinterpretation probably.

Or were you one of the Ambulance crew first at the scene?

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Oliver Bodega Bay 06 Apr 17 11.33am
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted And you know all this with 100% accuracy of certainty do you? Or... like the rest of us... you are relying upon "information" supplied by the Media based upon hearsay and misinterpretation probably. Or were you one of the Ambulance crew first at the scene? Yeah you're right. Unless you're there to witness something first hand it didn't happen. You can't believe anything the media says. In fact you can't even believe the ambulance crew who are second on the scene. The injuries sustained where given in evidence by the Prosecution in Croydon Magistrates Court on 3 April. I don't think the evidence relating to his injuries in this case is based on hearsay and misinterpretation probably. I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.
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Oliver

Bodega Bay 06 Apr 17 11.33am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

And you know all this with 100% accuracy of certainty do you?

Or... like the rest of us... you are relying upon "information" supplied by the Media based upon hearsay and misinterpretation probably.

Or were you one of the Ambulance crew first at the scene?

Yeah you're right. Unless you're there to witness something first hand it didn't happen. You can't believe anything the media says. In fact you can't even believe the ambulance crew who are second on the scene.

The injuries sustained where given in evidence by the Prosecution in Croydon Magistrates Court on 3 April. I don't think the evidence relating to his injuries in this case is based on hearsay and misinterpretation probably.

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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 11.36am
Originally posted by Oliver Yeah you're right. Unless you're there to witness something first hand it didn't happen. You can't believe anything the media says. In fact you can't even believe the ambulance crew who are second on the scene. The injuries sustained where given in evidence by the Prosecution in Croydon Magistrates Court on 3 April. I don't think the evidence relating to his injuries in this case is based on hearsay and misinterpretation probably. So you were at the hearing in Croydon Magistrates Court were you?
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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 11.36am

Originally posted by Oliver

So you were at the hearing in Croydon Magistrates Court were you?

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Oliver Bodega Bay 06 Apr 17 11.42am
I have prepared one of my own time capsules. I have placed some rather large samples of dynamite, gunpowder and nitroglycerin. My time capsule is set to go off in the year 3000. It will show them what we are really like.
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Bodega Bay 06 Apr 17 11.42am

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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 11.53am
Originally posted by Oliver There's no point covering your face I know who you are!
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Hoof Hearted 06 Apr 17 11.53am

Originally posted by Oliver

There's no point covering your face I know who you are!

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 06 Apr 17 2.19pm
Originally posted by Oliver I'm interested what paper was it in I think it was the Express as I was in the dentist waiting room when I read it. Cant be sure though but there was short article on how the fight started in the pub and the three lads ran out to the bus stop followed by the gang but two escaped and left their mate to get kicked in so the article said. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 06 Apr 17 2.19pm

Originally posted by Oliver

I'm interested what paper was it in

I think it was the Express as I was in the dentist waiting room when I read it. Cant be sure though but there was short article on how the fight started in the pub and the three lads ran out to the bus stop followed by the gang but two escaped and left their mate to get kicked in so the article said.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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