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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 16 Apr 15 10.03am

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Quote matt_himself at 15 Apr 2015 8.15pm

Sensible policies for a better Britain:

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4 or 5 seats max. A sensible result for a better Britain .

So his openning remarks is to essentially say 'the system we currently use for immigration which is points based for anyone outside the EU' and that we'll use the same system of benefits that already exist.

&#9632;Banning foreign criminals entering or remaining in Britain
>> Already the law.

&#9632;No tax on the minimum wage up to £13,000
>> Interesting but the conseravtives seem to be pursuing something more or less like this as are Labour

&#9632;Raising the threshold for paying 40% tax to £55,000 and introduce a new 30% intermediate rate on earnings between £45,300 and £55,000
>> This makes sense to me, but effectively won't make a huge difference in revenue gain.

&#9632;Scrapping HS2 rail scheme
>> Will cost a fortune given how far progressed this already is, and that contracts are already in place - Another embarresment for the UK like aircraft carriers without aircraft.

&#9632;Scrapping inheritance tax
>> ie removing a tax thats unpopular with the wealthy of the UK.

&#9632;Building a 500-bed military hospital
>> Not sure why this is a manifesto requirement - what is more important is changing the NHS to accept medical cases referred from the Military for further treatment, and funding accordingly.

&#9632;Bringing in power to sack your MP
>> Absurdly unworkable.

&#9632;Ending the transport of live animals for slaughter and CCTV on slaughterhouses
>> Not sure how you transport animals to a slaughter house if they're not live (and massively undermines the chain of quality assurance on meat production for market).

&#9632;Increase the transferable tax allowance for married couples to £1,500
>> Why married couples - Changes to allowances should be to all people.

&#9632;Ensure big corporations pay their fair share of tax
>> Hahahahhaaha no chance

&#9632;Remove VAT from listed building repairs and sanitary products
>> The later, should have been done decades ago, the former is just weirdly specific to about 5% of the population (who just happen to have homes that are listed).

&#9632;End immigration for unskilled jobs for a five-year period
>> And who is going to do the work? In theory this is a great idea, the problem is filling the vaccancy as the surplus of unskilled work tends to be in high employment areas. You need to relocate the unemployed to those areas, which is very expensive.

Which considering the 'tax cuts' UKIP are talking about isn't really viable.

 


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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 16 Apr 15 11.47am Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 16 Apr 2015 7.23am

Quote nickgusset at 16 Apr 2015 7.03am

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More about the NHS


Do you know anything about David Nicholson?

Suggest you type 'Staffordshire NHS David Nicholson' into Google.

Love the fact you continue to post any stuff you find on the net without reading or understanding it.

Indeed - the same David Nicholson who knowingly presided over huge neglect and unnecessary deaths in the Mid Staffs Hospital Trusts scandal without lifting a finger to action and was then backed any both Cameron and Jeremy Hunt.

His opinion is worth nothing.

 


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johnfirewall Flag 16 Apr 15 12.24pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend


&#9632;Banning foreign criminals entering or remaining in Britain
>> Already the law.

Even from the EU? No one seems to be able to share the records anyway.

&#9632;Scrapping inheritance tax
>> ie removing a tax thats unpopular with the wealthy of the UK.

You're only saying that on the basis of the threshold being above the average house price. That sort of communist ethos isn't very good for the country.

&#9632;Ensure big corporations pay their fair share of tax
>> Hahahahhaaha no chance
Doable to an extent but not without forcing operations out of the UK, much like many of Labour's taxes would do.

&#9632;Remove VAT from listed building repairs and sanitary products
>> The later, should have been done decades ago, the former is just weirdly specific to about 5% of the population (who just happen to have homes that are listed).

Agree as long as razors are in the same bracket. Not that I care, but the recent feminist campaign which made the comparison and erroneously claimed that razors were exempt (untrue despite being them classified as an essential item) annoyed me.

&#9632;End immigration for unskilled jobs for a five-year period
>> And who is going to do the work? In theory this is a great idea, the problem is filling the vaccancy as the surplus of unskilled work tends to be in high employment areas. You need to relocate the unemployed to those areas, which is very expensive.

Councils are already sending people across the country to areas with more housing. I presume they just pay the new council. Surely a net saving for London boroughs.

 

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Anerley-Fried-Eagle Flag Fake Beckenham actually 16 Apr 15 11.09pm Send a Private Message to Anerley-Fried-Eagle Add Anerley-Fried-Eagle as a friend

Update:

The tories want to look after the rich but try and come across as though they have a compassionate side.
The lib dems want any sniff of power at any cost.
The labour party want to look after the poor but realise such an agenda wouldnt get them a majority so they pander to the middle ground.
Nigel farage drinks beer alot and moans about the EU.
The SNP want to break up the UK
That welsh party also want to break up the uk
Natalie bennetts still wearing that grey jacket.
The northern irish parties dont get to be on tv even though they also want to keep/ break up the UK
Despite having the same number of westminster MPs as the greens, the respect party arent on any of the tv debates either.


The opinion polls are split right down the middle. Far be it for the polls to reflect that the uk is split right down the middle between the haves (home owning classes) and the have nots (everybody else).

None of the parties of any persuasion are putting forward any ideas on how we fund the NHS, look after people in their old age, provide people with affordable places to live. Theyre all happy that youngsters leave uni with tensif thousands of pounds worth of debt before trying to save for a squillion pound house whilst trying to put aside money fir their old age.

Boring tedious and superficial.

If it didnt have real consequences i'd be glad when its all over.

Sod uk politics, sod this election and sod the devisive class based mess this country has become.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 16 Apr 15 11.45pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 16 Apr 2015 10.03am

Quote imbored at 15 Apr 2015 11.17pm

Quote matt_himself at 15 Apr 2015 8.15pm

Sensible policies for a better Britain:

[Link]

4 or 5 seats max. A sensible result for a better Britain .

So his openning remarks is to essentially say 'the system we currently use for immigration which is points based for anyone outside the EU' and that we'll use the same system of benefits that already exist.

&#9632;Banning foreign criminals entering or remaining in Britain
>> Already the law.

&#9632;No tax on the minimum wage up to £13,000
>> Interesting but the conseravtives seem to be pursuing something more or less like this as are Labour

&#9632;Raising the threshold for paying 40% tax to £55,000 and introduce a new 30% intermediate rate on earnings between £45,300 and £55,000
>> This makes sense to me, but effectively won't make a huge difference in revenue gain.

&#9632;Scrapping HS2 rail scheme
>> Will cost a fortune given how far progressed this already is, and that contracts are already in place - Another embarresment for the UK like aircraft carriers without aircraft.

&#9632;Scrapping inheritance tax
>> ie removing a tax thats unpopular with the wealthy of the UK.

&#9632;Building a 500-bed military hospital
>> Not sure why this is a manifesto requirement - what is more important is changing the NHS to accept medical cases referred from the Military for further treatment, and funding accordingly.

&#9632;Bringing in power to sack your MP
>> Absurdly unworkable.

&#9632;Ending the transport of live animals for slaughter and CCTV on slaughterhouses
>> Not sure how you transport animals to a slaughter house if they're not live (and massively undermines the chain of quality assurance on meat production for market).

&#9632;Increase the transferable tax allowance for married couples to £1,500
>> Why married couples - Changes to allowances should be to all people.

&#9632;Ensure big corporations pay their fair share of tax
>> Hahahahhaaha no chance

&#9632;Remove VAT from listed building repairs and sanitary products
>> The later, should have been done decades ago, the former is just weirdly specific to about 5% of the population (who just happen to have homes that are listed).

&#9632;End immigration for unskilled jobs for a five-year period
>> And who is going to do the work? In theory this is a great idea, the problem is filling the vaccancy as the surplus of unskilled work tends to be in high employment areas. You need to relocate the unemployed to those areas, which is very expensive.

Which considering the 'tax cuts' UKIP are talking about isn't really viable.


To answer your question Jamie I guess any of our own 2 million plus long term unemployed could do this work. All the time we have even one single person in this country who could and wants to work and yet is unemployed and claiming benefits then we should not be letting any additional unskilled workers enter for work. If I or anyone else ran our own businesses like this or the last government did then we would be bust, it’s that simple. When you say "who would do this work?" well these jobs managed to be filled easily enough 10 years ago.
What do you honestly think will happen if we continually keep an open door immigration policy? Our population will go to 70 then 80 million then 90 million within most of our lifetimes. Much of our green belt land will be built over to try (and fail) to keep pace with the housing stock required and wages will carry on stagnating as employers realise that there is a constant readily available pool of cheap labour at their disposal. At the moment this country is bursting at the seams with huge strains on all our services, however we are just about plodding on through, what do you honestly think will happen to this country if the rate of population change that has taken place within the past five years carry’s on over the next 15?
Last year the annual the net migration was three hundred thousand people. That’s three hundred thousand people more entering the country than leaving it which truly is a staggering amount. Imagine three Crawley’s having to be built every year just to keep pace with demand for housing and infrastructure (one Crawley is bad enough!).
You can knock UKIP all you like but I don’t see any other party even admitting to these problems let alone trying to tackle them.
Rant over. Goodnight and God bless.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Apr 15 11.35pm

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Hoof Hearted 18 Apr 15 10.25am

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 16 Apr 2015 11.45pm

To answer your question Jamie I guess any of our own 2 million plus long term unemployed could do this work. All the time we have even one single person in this country who could and wants to work and yet is unemployed and claiming benefits then we should not be letting any additional unskilled workers enter for work. If I or anyone else ran our own businesses like this or the last government did then we would be bust, it’s that simple. When you say "who would do this work?" well these jobs managed to be filled easily enough 10 years ago.
What do you honestly think will happen if we continually keep an open door immigration policy? Our population will go to 70 then 80 million then 90 million within most of our lifetimes. Much of our green belt land will be built over to try (and fail) to keep pace with the housing stock required and wages will carry on stagnating as employers realise that there is a constant readily available pool of cheap labour at their disposal. At the moment this country is bursting at the seams with huge strains on all our services, however we are just about plodding on through, what do you honestly think will happen to this country if the rate of population change that has taken place within the past five years carry’s on over the next 15?
Last year the annual the net migration was three hundred thousand people. That’s three hundred thousand people more entering the country than leaving it which truly is a staggering amount. Imagine three Crawley’s having to be built every year just to keep pace with demand for housing and infrastructure (one Crawley is bad enough!).
You can knock UKIP all you like but I don’t see any other party even admitting to these problems let alone trying to tackle them.
Rant over. Goodnight and God bless.


Tom.... you forgot to add that the 300,000 immigrants will have children so this figure doubles every 5 years.

Think nearer to a 90 Million UK population in a much shorter timeframe.

 

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Looking through the policies that they would bring in we would go bankrupt as a country, if they ever did have a real say in our government and the way the country is run..........God help us if they ever did people:

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 15 9.10pm

Quote susmik at 18 Apr 2015 9.06pm

Looking through the policies that they would bring in we would go bankrupt as a country, if they ever did have a real say in our government and the way the country is run..........God help us if they ever did people:

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Expand please. (I don't mean your waistline )

 

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xGeorgex Flag Oh South London 18 Apr 15 10.07pm Send a Private Message to xGeorgex Add xGeorgex as a friend

Who is ready for the political earthquake? Would be good to here what UKIP have to say without being behind leafiest media.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 15 10.57pm

What I'm sure everyone would agree with is that a 6 week build up is far too long.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 18 Apr 15 11.04pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote nickgusset at 18 Apr 2015 10.57pm

What I'm sure everyone would agree with is that a 6 week build up is far too long.


This from a man who has a 6 week summer holiday.

 


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