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TeenAgeEagle Flag Luton 04 Jul 15 10.19pm Send a Private Message to TeenAgeEagle Add TeenAgeEagle as a friend

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Quote rawpalace05 at 04 Jul 2015 6.26pm

Quote Casual at 03 Jul 2015 11.12pm

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Quote orpingtoneagle at 03 Jul 2015 3.31pm

Don't believe the hype!

Austin is a decent striker but not yet a proven striker in the Premier League. Yes he scored lots of goals in a s***e team but their problem never was scoring. They leaked goals.

QPR are asking silly money as he is English. Did they pay that much a year ago?

He is not that much better.

I also love the way we as a fan group are now at the stage of 'It's only £15 million.'

That's a lot of money. It's a fair chunk of a redeveloped main stand.

It's never just about the money it's value for money.


I'm inclined to agree. Ings, Austin, Berahino, they're all over hyped and over priced. 8-10m will get you bucket loads of player on the continent and Pards' record of signing strikers is pretty good!


Austin 18 goals, berahino 11, Ings 14. 2 of the teams relegated and west Brom not exactly creating loads of chances.

Gestede possibly going for 8/9 million, we apparently offered over 9 million for Gomis ( 30 year old), Ross Mcormack 11 million last year.

You think the 3 Englishman are overpriced? Why.


I think the fact that you end your last sentence "why" with a full stop means this isn't open for debate.

Well, in my opinion, Berahino aside, they've only done it for one season which I don't think constitutes paying a ridiculous premium or substantially more than the equivalent Championship players.

As for Berahino himself, he's just about ambled into double figures for the past two seasons I believe (very similar player to Gayle IMO and only marginally better) yet has been talked of as 'England's saviour'...thank heavens Harry Kane put an end to that.

Back to the other two, there's no doubt they know where the goal is but as others have pointed out, Austin was part of QPR's gun ho approach which saw them leak lots of goals and Burnley weren't too compact either (sure pens added to both tallies too?).

I'd prefer Jordan Rhodes myself, pay 10-12 million for a player who simply cannot stop scoring, wherever, whenever and however.

Edited by rawpalace05 (04 Jul 2015 6.31pm)


Rhodes has a career total of 156 in 291, Austin has 180 in 301. Very similar, except Austin has proved he can do it in the prem, which IMO justifies the extra 3 million. Also think its unfair to write off his impressive scoring total because he was in an attacking team, he was the only one of their team who got into double figures I think, and players like Falcao proved that attacking teams dont automatically equal goals for strikers.

That being said, would take Rhodes or Austin in a heartbeat

 


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Quote TeenAgeEagle at 04 Jul 2015 10.19pm

Quote rawpalace05 at 04 Jul 2015 6.26pm

Quote Casual at 03 Jul 2015 11.12pm

Quote rawpalace05 at 03 Jul 2015 7.02pm

Quote orpingtoneagle at 03 Jul 2015 3.31pm

Don't believe the hype!

Austin is a decent striker but not yet a proven striker in the Premier League. Yes he scored lots of goals in a s***e team but their problem never was scoring. They leaked goals.

QPR are asking silly money as he is English. Did they pay that much a year ago?

He is not that much better.

I also love the way we as a fan group are now at the stage of 'It's only £15 million.'

That's a lot of money. It's a fair chunk of a redeveloped main stand.

It's never just about the money it's value for money.


I'm inclined to agree. Ings, Austin, Berahino, they're all over hyped and over priced. 8-10m will get you bucket loads of player on the continent and Pards' record of signing strikers is pretty good!


Austin 18 goals, berahino 11, Ings 14. 2 of the teams relegated and west Brom not exactly creating loads of chances.

Gestede possibly going for 8/9 million, we apparently offered over 9 million for Gomis ( 30 year old), Ross Mcormack 11 million last year.

You think the 3 Englishman are overpriced? Why.


I think the fact that you end your last sentence "why" with a full stop means this isn't open for debate.

Well, in my opinion, Berahino aside, they've only done it for one season which I don't think constitutes paying a ridiculous premium or substantially more than the equivalent Championship players.

As for Berahino himself, he's just about ambled into double figures for the past two seasons I believe (very similar player to Gayle IMO and only marginally better) yet has been talked of as 'England's saviour'...thank heavens Harry Kane put an end to that.

Back to the other two, there's no doubt they know where the goal is but as others have pointed out, Austin was part of QPR's gun ho approach which saw them leak lots of goals and Burnley weren't too compact either (sure pens added to both tallies too?).

I'd prefer Jordan Rhodes myself, pay 10-12 million for a player who simply cannot stop scoring, wherever, whenever and however.

Edited by rawpalace05 (04 Jul 2015 6.31pm)


Rhodes has a career total of 156 in 291, Austin has 180 in 301. Very similar, except Austin has proved he can do it in the prem, which IMO justifies the extra 3 million. Also think its unfair to write off his impressive scoring total because he was in an attacking team, he was the only one of their team who got into double figures I think, and players like Falcao proved that attacking teams dont automatically equal goals for strikers.

That being said, would take Rhodes or Austin in a heartbeat

Absolutely, but if we dont manage to get either of them, I think Gestede or Martin or N'Doye would be useful additions?

 

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Reports (I think a north east rag) suggests Austin is holding out for Chelsea. If they bought him can't see them making Remy stay. If rather have Remy so if Pards could manage it and with a bit of luck... You never know. That said why Austin would want to play in Chelsea's reserve team and occasionally from the bench I don't know. He'd have to be behind Costa and Falcao.

 

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D J Campbell was the 6th highest scorer in prem 2010/11. Very similar to Austin with 13 goals for Blackpool.

Enough said.

Austin is over hyped, over rated and over priced.

 

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Quote BelfastEagle at 04 Jul 2015 11.37pm

D J Campbell was the 6th highest scorer in prem 2010/11. Very similar to Austin with 13 goals for Blackpool.

Enough said.

Austin is over hyped, over rated and over priced.


3 major differences I would say
1)Austin scored 5 more, which in the prem is quite a big difference
2)Austin has backed it up by scoring alot of goals pretty much every season, unlike Campbell who had a bit of a 'flash in the pan'
3) Austin is 5 years younger than Campbell was so is highly unlikely to decline so rapidly.

Personally, I think Austin is the perfect striker for our system, A physical presence and great finisher, to latch onto supply from the wings. And although 15 million sounds alot, its probably a fair price in todays ridiculous market.

 


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SKY SPORTS:

Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe is ready to smash the club's transfer record by paying £14million for QPR striker Charlie Austin, according to reports in the Sun on Sunday.

The south-coast club have already broken their record once this summer with the signing of left-back Tyrone Mings from Ipswich, but reports state they could be set to beat it once more.

 

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Quote Fazil Bawlty at 05 Jul 2015 9.47am

SKY SPORTS:

Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe is ready to smash the club's transfer record by paying £14million for QPR striker Charlie Austin, according to reports in the Sun on Sunday.

The south-coast club have already broken their record once this summer with the signing of left-back Tyrone Mings from Ipswich, but reports state they could be set to beat it once more.

Fair play to Bournmouth giving themselves a chance of staying up if they pull this off will be 2 great signings

 

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Quote Fazil Bawlty at 05 Jul 2015 9.47am

SKY SPORTS:

Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe is ready to smash the club's transfer record by paying £14million for QPR striker Charlie Austin, according to reports in the Sun on Sunday.

The south-coast club have already broken their record once this summer with the signing of left-back Tyrone Mings from Ipswich, but reports state they could be set to beat it once more.


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Looks like the bidding war is due to begin. I suspect the successfull club will need to top £15m

 

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Jonny_Johnson Flag Tel Aviv 05 Jul 15 1.12pm

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apparently Newcastle have had a bid accepted by him according to the most reliable commentator on Twitter (if that's possible) - Max Jacobs.

 

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apparently Newcastle have had a bid accepted by him according to the most reliable commentator on Twitter (if that's possible) - Max Jacobs.


Apparently he doesn't want to go up north.

can't see us matching Bournemouth and Newcastle's bids.

But then stranger things have happened.

 

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Quote black eagle. at 05 Jul 2015 1.33pm

Quote Jonny_Johnson at 05 Jul 2015 1.12pm

apparently Newcastle have had a bid accepted by him according to the most reliable commentator on Twitter (if that's possible) - Max Jacobs.


Apparently he doesn't want to go up north.

can't see us matching Bournemouth and Newcastle's bids.

But then stranger things have happened.

If we do match, then Austin's rumoured preference to stay in London could give us an edge?

 

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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 05 Jul 15 2.20pm Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

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I know £15 million is a lot of money for Austin but should we stay up next year that will be peanuts with the new TV deal coming in the season arfter next.

 

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