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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 03 Jul 14 2.25pm
Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice? Clearly I'm guessing but I suspect when it comes to this level of abuse then it is a choice. Rolf likes women but his fame gave him access to girls. He tried it, liked it & chose to continue doing it. I'm thinking the taboo & power aspect would add an extra thril. Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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The sun always shines in Catford 03 Jul 14 2.25pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm

I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice?

Clearly I'm guessing but I suspect when it comes to this level of abuse then it is a choice. Rolf likes women but his fame gave him access to girls. He tried it, liked it & chose to continue doing it. I'm thinking the taboo & power aspect would add an extra thril.

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Kermit8 Hevon 03 Jul 14 2.44pm
Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal. Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal.

Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle.

Big chest and massive boobs

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ghosteagle 03 Jul 14 2.47pm
Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice? Clearly I'm guessing but I suspect when it comes to this level of abuse then it is a choice. Rolf likes women but his fame gave him access to girls. He tried it, liked it & chose to continue doing it. I'm thinking the taboo & power aspect would add an extra thril. But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical.
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03 Jul 14 2.47pm

Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm

I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice?

But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical.

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ghosteagle 03 Jul 14 2.48pm
Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jul 2014 2.44pm Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal. Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle. So then, if it's a psychatric disorder then how can it be described as a choice?
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03 Jul 14 2.48pm

Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jul 2014 2.44pm

Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal.

Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle.

So then, if it's a psychatric disorder then how can it be described as a choice?

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 03 Jul 14 2.50pm
Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.47pm Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice? Clearly I'm guessing but I suspect when it comes to this level of abuse then it is a choice. Rolf likes women but his fame gave him access to girls. He tried it, liked it & chose to continue doing it. I'm thinking the taboo & power aspect would add an extra thril. But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical. Power, control & taboo can all be aphrodisiacs Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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The sun always shines in Catford 03 Jul 14 2.50pm

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Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm

I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice?

But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical.

Power, control & taboo can all be aphrodisiacs

Lend me a Tenor

31 May to 3 June 2017

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London Oratory School
SW6 1RX

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 03 Jul 14 2.51pm
Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.48pm Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jul 2014 2.44pm Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal. Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle. So then, if it's a psychatric disorder then how can it be described as a choice? I think Kermit's agreeing with you ghost Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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The sun always shines in Catford 03 Jul 14 2.51pm

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Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jul 2014 2.44pm

Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal.

Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle.

So then, if it's a psychatric disorder then how can it be described as a choice?

I think Kermit's agreeing with you ghost

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ghosteagle 03 Jul 14 2.52pm
Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.51pm Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.48pm Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jul 2014 2.44pm Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal. Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle. So then, if it's a psychatric disorder then how can it be described as a choice? I think Kermit's agreeing with you ghost Ah, fair play.
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ghosteagle

03 Jul 14 2.52pm

Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.51pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.48pm

Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jul 2014 2.44pm

Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal.

Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle.

So then, if it's a psychatric disorder then how can it be described as a choice?

I think Kermit's agreeing with you ghost

Ah, fair play.

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Johnny Eagles berlin 03 Jul 14 3.01pm
Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.50pm Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.47pm Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice? Clearly I'm guessing but I suspect when it comes to this level of abuse then it is a choice. Rolf likes women but his fame gave him access to girls. He tried it, liked it & chose to continue doing it. I'm thinking the taboo & power aspect would add an extra thril. But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical. Power, control & taboo can all be aphrodisiacs Are you still guessing? ...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...
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berlin 03 Jul 14 3.01pm

Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.50pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.47pm

Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm

I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice?

But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical.

Power, control & taboo can all be aphrodisiacs

Are you still guessing?

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 03 Jul 14 3.09pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 03 Jul 2014 3.01pm Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.50pm Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.47pm Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice? Clearly I'm guessing but I suspect when it comes to this level of abuse then it is a choice. Rolf likes women but his fame gave him access to girls. He tried it, liked it & chose to continue doing it. I'm thinking the taboo & power aspect would add an extra thril. But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical. Power, control & taboo can all be aphrodisiacs Are you still guessing? Yeah, total guess mate, I've not tried them. I attempted to try tiger p**** but he was a bit too quick for me. Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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Superfly

The sun always shines in Catford 03 Jul 14 3.09pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 03 Jul 2014 3.01pm

Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.50pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.47pm

Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm

I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice?

But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical.

Power, control & taboo can all be aphrodisiacs

Are you still guessing?

Yeah, total guess mate, I've not tried them. I attempted to try tiger p**** but he was a bit too quick for me.

Lend me a Tenor

31 May to 3 June 2017

John McIntosh Arts Centre
London Oratory School
SW6 1RX

with Superfly in the chorus
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Jul 14 3.35pm
Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jul 2014 2.44pm Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal. Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle. Tricky, it can be a sexual disorder, and is classed as a fetish but thats not really applicable in most cases. But then so was homosexuality classed as a fetish of sexual disorder for a long time. Its like all human sexuality, its much more complex than people tend to give it credit for. Human sexuality is fairly fluid, and preferential. Most people are probably bi(ish), and then preferential, and will have experimented to some degree. A minority seem to be 'fixed' in that they know from a very young age. But mostly people are kind of sexual. The same is probably true of child sex offenders. Some are prefential, some are experimenting/thrill seeking through breaking tabboos and others are probably a fixed orientation, who've only ever been attracted to youth. Then of course some offenders just are attracted to pre-pubecscent, and others are young teen offenders. Some like girls, some like boys, and some like them both. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 03 Jul 14 3.35pm

Quote Kermit8 at 03 Jul 2014 2.44pm

Paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder. A diagnosable condition. It is also illegal.

Talking about it as a sexuality a la heterosexuality and homosexuality is approaching it from the wrong angle.

Tricky, it can be a sexual disorder, and is classed as a fetish but thats not really applicable in most cases. But then so was homosexuality classed as a fetish of sexual disorder for a long time.

Its like all human sexuality, its much more complex than people tend to give it credit for. Human sexuality is fairly fluid, and preferential.

Most people are probably bi(ish), and then preferential, and will have experimented to some degree. A minority seem to be 'fixed' in that they know from a very young age. But mostly people are kind of sexual.

The same is probably true of child sex offenders. Some are prefential, some are experimenting/thrill seeking through breaking tabboos and others are probably a fixed orientation, who've only ever been attracted to youth.

Then of course some offenders just are attracted to pre-pubecscent, and others are young teen offenders. Some like girls, some like boys, and some like them both.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Jul 14 3.38pm
Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.50pm Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.47pm Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice? Clearly I'm guessing but I suspect when it comes to this level of abuse then it is a choice. Rolf likes women but his fame gave him access to girls. He tried it, liked it & chose to continue doing it. I'm thinking the taboo & power aspect would add an extra thril. But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical. Power, control & taboo can all be aphrodisiacs Also convenience, or curisoity. Its worth remembering that around 50% of child sex offenders have the mental age of a child or young teen themselves, even if they have an adult body and urges. Consequently they struggle to form relationships with people their own age, but bond with children their own mental age. of course the difference is that they have fully developed sexuality - so its hardly surprising they establish sexual contact with other children. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 03 Jul 14 3.38pm

Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.50pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.47pm

Quote Superfly at 03 Jul 2014 2.25pm

Quote ghosteagle at 03 Jul 2014 2.07pm

I didn't think sexual orientation was a choice?

But why would he 'try it' if he wasn't already inclined towards it? Doesn't seem logical.

Power, control & taboo can all be aphrodisiacs

Also convenience, or curisoity.

Its worth remembering that around 50% of child sex offenders have the mental age of a child or young teen themselves, even if they have an adult body and urges. Consequently they struggle to form relationships with people their own age, but bond with children their own mental age. of course the difference is that they have fully developed sexuality - so its hardly surprising they establish sexual contact with other children.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Stirlingsays 03 Jul 14 7.11pm
Quote Helmet46 at 03 Jul 2014 1.35pm You arrest them and they go through the court process -where a jury of 12 people and a judge will hear the evidence and a judgement will be made. I imagine that judgement will be different dependent upon circumstance. Thats what happened to Harris. I have a genetic desire for busty blond women but guess what - I don't just go and get one, touch one, grope one etc without her consent as that is wrong and I would deserve punishment irrespective of my genetic propensity. Like I said, sex with children should....No needs to be connected to prison time. But that's because it doesn't fit with how we need society to work. You're not really addressing the hypocritical nature of society when it comes to facing up to genetic propensity in this area. The debate is often stone age. The statement about consent doesn't fit the circumstance because consent in terms of children under 16 isn't giveable in law. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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03 Jul 14 7.11pm

Quote Helmet46 at 03 Jul 2014 1.35pm

You arrest them and they go through the court process -where a jury of 12 people and a judge will hear the evidence and a judgement will be made. I imagine that judgement will be different dependent upon circumstance. Thats what happened to Harris. I have a genetic desire for busty blond women but guess what - I don't just go and get one, touch one, grope one etc without her consent as that is wrong and I would deserve punishment irrespective of my genetic propensity.

Like I said, sex with children should....No needs to be connected to prison time. But that's because it doesn't fit with how we need society to work.

You're not really addressing the hypocritical nature of society when it comes to facing up to genetic propensity in this area. The debate is often stone age.

The statement about consent doesn't fit the circumstance because consent in terms of children under 16 isn't giveable in law.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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