The debate for me is whether no deal is any more damaging than not getting *fully* out of the EU in a meaningful way (remain, BRINO, Canada, Norway, blah blah).

If you are like me and see globalism and mass migration as an existential threat to the UK and the wider west then I would take almost any level of economic pain to achieve this. It's just not about money for me.

Even though getting out of the EU is only a first step to resolving the fundamental issues in this country it's an essential one.

You lot are really finding quite eloquent ways to be b*stards now aren't you. Really quite impressive.

Yep. Selling our country for self interest.

Funny how people see things isn't it?

I see globalisation as an inevitable consequence of human and technological evolution and to attempt to stand against it as futile as King Canute commanding the tide.

If you face the inevitable then you must do your best to harness it's power to your advantage, and not retreat into a corner moaning about how things used to be better.

No-one wants uncontrolled immigration but some immigration, when currently our birthrate is falling and our life expectancy increasing, is essential. If circumstances change then we too must adapt and change.

Mass immigration was never necessary. The youth were ignored while we imported trained labour. Pretty appalling really, and by a labour govt. Well Tony Blair dressed up as labour but anything for power, which funnily enough Corbyn is doing with his stubborn and vague positioning to get a GE.