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Invalid user 2019 Flag 07 Jun 19 10.43pm

Originally posted by .TUX.



Dead lazy, but someone once said that if voting mattered then we'd never have been given the right.

Sadly history shows this to be true.
We're 'given' a vote that ultimately doesn't matter. It's laughable tbh that people take this s*** seriously.

Oh well

A troubling but likely accurate take. I'd always considered that if you have significant resources at your disposal it's very easy to hold massive influence in a first past the post system. Just flash the cash in both directions and you've got it sewn up, US lobbying style. Then ensure the population are endlessly at loggerheads and fragmenting along social issues as a distraction. Equals Profit! $$$$$

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 19 11.18am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


That's a curious thought.

If the Tories broke up all their voters would go to Farage......So I'd rather suspect you'd very much hope they didn't break up.

If the Tories broke up only a proportion of their voters would go to Farage!

There are many, like me, who detest the drift to the right and want nothing to do with Farage or his kind.

Where their home will be in future is unclear right now. It could be in the LibDems, if they get themselves sorted out. It might have been in Change, but they seem to be uncertain of where they are going themselves. My hope is that all these elements will coalesce around a central imperative, whilst retaining some degree of individual identity and co-operate in any future GE under an "Alliance" banner. They could then become an important partner in a coalition, which I see as the most likely outcome of the next GE.

What is for sure is that a substantial number of Tories won't go to Farage if they break up. Most perhaps but never all.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 19 11.24am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If the Tories broke up only a proportion of their voters would go to Farage!

There are many, like me, who detest the drift to the right and want nothing to do with Farage or his kind.

Where their home will be in future is unclear right now. It could be in the LibDems, if they get themselves sorted out. It might have been in Change, but they seem to be uncertain of where they are going themselves. My hope is that all these elements will coalesce around a central imperative, whilst retaining some degree of individual identity and co-operate in any future GE under an "Alliance" banner. They could then become an important partner in a coalition, which I see as the most likely outcome of the next GE.

What is for sure is that a substantial number of Tories won't go to Farage if they break up. Most perhaps but never all.


Mmmm....fair enough, most not all.

I made the mistake of saying 'all' which is rarely correct when we are referring to humans.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Jun 19 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Labour only won in Peterborough because of demographic shift.

I was in Peterborough city centre last month and it was like being in a foreign city.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jun 2019 10.17am)

It's always been that way to me.

I would prefer the familiarity of Polish and Nigerian accents myself.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Jun 19 6.44pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

It's always been that way to me.

I would prefer the familiarity of Polish and Nigerian accents myself.


Surely you are not being Racist against the indeginous population of Cambridgeshire?

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Jun 19 6.46pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If the Tories broke up only a proportion of their voters would go to Farage!

There are many, like me, who detest the drift to the right and want nothing to do with Farage or his kind.

Where their home will be in future is unclear right now. It could be in the LibDems, if they get themselves sorted out. It might have been in Change, but they seem to be uncertain of where they are going themselves. My hope is that all these elements will coalesce around a central imperative, whilst retaining some degree of individual identity and co-operate in any future GE under an "Alliance" banner. They could then become an important partner in a coalition, which I see as the most likely outcome of the next GE.

What is for sure is that a substantial number of Tories won't go to Farage if they break up. Most perhaps but never all.

Link? or is it just your opinion?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 19 6.54pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Mmmm....fair enough, most not all.

I made the mistake of saying 'all' which is rarely correct when we are referring to humans.

Thanks for the honesty.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 19 6.56pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Link? or is it just your opinion?

Substantial is my opinion. Not all is a fact.

What constitutes substantial in this context is another opinion.

 


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Park Road Flag 08 Jun 19 6.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Substantial is my opinion. Not all is a fact.

What constitutes substantial in this context is another opinion.

That's very honest of you...

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Jun 19 7.02pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Park Road

That's very honest of you...


Agreed

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 08 Jun 19 11.11pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman


Surely you are not being Racist against the indeginous population of Cambridgeshire?

In truth I have not had the opportunity to study the native cambridgean tribes in their natural habitat. The rumours may in fact not be entirely true.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jun 19 8.06am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

It's always been that way to me.

I would prefer the familiarity of Polish and Nigerian accents myself.

Thanks for your agreement in changing our country for ever against the view of the majority and sanity. Not.

We would think it was like coy your opinion would never get into power, only did and does, with people like Tony Bliar doing it without telling or asking the country what it thinks. Typical really, because it’s crazy stupidity.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (09 Jun 2019 8.09am)

 


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