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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Jun 16 11.27pm
Steve Parish on Twitter a minute ago pretty narked that The Premier League have put their weight behind The Remain campaign. 'Especially as he wasn't asked' from what I gathered they should of remained neutral on the matter. Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Jun 16 11.27pm

Steve Parish on Twitter a minute ago pretty narked that The Premier League have put their weight behind The Remain campaign. 'Especially as he wasn't asked' from what I gathered they should of remained neutral on the matter.

Pro USA & Israel

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Jun 16 11.33pm
Originally posted by Jimenez Steve Parish on Twitter a minute ago pretty narked that The Premier League have put their weight behind The Remain campaign. 'Especially as he wasn't asked' from what I gathered they should of remained neutral on the matter. Steve Parish ‏@CEO4TAG · 33m33 minutes ago Steve Parish Retweeted David Cameron That's certainly not my personal position and not one ever endorsed by this club . Steve Parish added, Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Jun 16 11.33pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Steve Parish ‏@CEO4TAG · 33m33 minutes ago

Steve Parish Retweeted David Cameron

That's certainly not my personal position and not one ever endorsed by this club .

Steve Parish added,

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Jun 16 11.34pm
Originally posted by Jimenez Steve Parish ‏@CEO4TAG · 33m33 minutes ago Steve Parish Retweeted David Cameron That's certainly not my personal position and not one ever endorsed by this club . Steve Parish added, I'm against using a PL club to support a political view especially when we weren't asked Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Jun 16 11.34pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Steve Parish ‏@CEO4TAG · 33m33 minutes ago

Steve Parish Retweeted David Cameron

That's certainly not my personal position and not one ever endorsed by this club .

Steve Parish added,

I'm against using a PL club to support a political view especially when we weren't asked

Pro USA & Israel

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Anerley-Fried-Eagle Fake Beckenham actually 20 Jun 16 11.48pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Yep, the death of local shops due to the rise of supermarkets since Thatcher's vision has forced him to use a foreign workforce. It's Thatcher's fault. Again. 99% of things are thatchers fault. The other 1% are blairs. RIP ENGLISH FOOTBALL 24/6/14
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Originally posted by nickgusset

Yep, the death of local shops due to the rise of supermarkets since Thatcher's vision has forced him to use a foreign workforce. It's Thatcher's fault. Again.

99% of things are thatchers fault.

The other 1% are blairs.

RIP ENGLISH FOOTBALL 24/6/14

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Stuk Top half 20 Jun 16 11.54pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 If you think personal experience counts for nothing then fair enough. If you think blaming one immigrant for the EU's foibles is fair enough then you're a fool. It's the system at fault, not the people. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 20 Jun 16 11.54pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

If you think personal experience counts for nothing then fair enough.

If you think blaming one immigrant for the EU's foibles is fair enough then you're a fool.

It's the system at fault, not the people.

Optimistic as ever

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Kermit8 Hevon 21 Jun 16 8.22am
Originally posted by Stuk If you think blaming one immigrant for the EU's foibles is fair enough then you're a fool. It's the system at fault, not the people. Try telling that to Britain First types and the less vocal xenophobes. That'll be their main reason for voting 'out: Johnny Foreigner. And they aren't really trying to hide it to be fair. And yes they are fools and what was Nigel thinking by that poster and sucking up to such people? Still, if they are on the winning team they'll be fools no more. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 21 Jun 16 8.22am

Originally posted by Stuk

If you think blaming one immigrant for the EU's foibles is fair enough then you're a fool.

It's the system at fault, not the people.

Try telling that to Britain First types and the less vocal xenophobes. That'll be their main reason for voting 'out: Johnny Foreigner. And they aren't really trying to hide it to be fair.

And yes they are fools and what was Nigel thinking by that poster and sucking up to such people?

Still, if they are on the winning team they'll be fools no more.

Big chest and massive boobs

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 8.31am
Some food for thought from Paul Mason. hard to disagree with a lot of it. [Link]
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Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 8.31am

Some food for thought from Paul Mason. hard to disagree with a lot of it.

[Link]

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Jun 16 8.42am
Originally posted by nickgusset Some food for thought from Paul Mason. hard to disagree with a lot of it. [Link] Really ? I have been rolling my eyes and shaking my head. I just had to laugh at the following concerning the Labour front bench: that they will take measures to stop the creation of low-paid jobs that only migrants can do; and they will take the issue of free movement into a big renegotiation with the EU as soon as possible. I'm sure the EU will "Bow" and capitulate to Corbyn and his cronies.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 21 Jun 16 8.42am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Some food for thought from Paul Mason. hard to disagree with a lot of it.

[Link]

Really ?
I have been rolling my eyes and shaking my head.

I just had to laugh at the following concerning the Labour front bench:

that they will take measures to stop the creation of low-paid jobs that only migrants can do; and they will take the issue of free movement into a big renegotiation with the EU as soon as possible.

I'm sure the EU will "Bow" and capitulate to Corbyn and his cronies.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 9.02am
Originally posted by Willo Really ? I have been rolling my eyes and shaking my head. I just had to laugh at the following concerning the Labour front bench: that they will take measures to stop the creation of low-paid jobs that only migrants can do; and they will take the issue of free movement into a big renegotiation with the EU as soon as possible. I'm sure the EU will "Bow" and capitulate to Corbyn and his cronies. In a big, multi-ethnic city, absorbing a lot of migrants is easy. In small towns, where social capital is already meagre, the migrant population can feel unabsorbed. The structure of temporary migration from Europe means many of those who come don’t vote, or don’t have the right to – which feels unsettling if you understand that it is only by voting that the workforce ever achieved progress. It feels as if, through migration, the establishment got to create the kind of working class it always wanted: fragmented, dislocated, politically distant, weak. But a Brexit led by Ukip and the Tory right will not make any of these things better: it will make them worse. Take a look at the people leading the Brexit movement. Nigel Farage, Neil Hamilton, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove. They have fought all their lives for one objective: to give more power to employers and less to workers. Many leading Brexiters are on record as wanting to privatise the NHS. They revelled in the destruction of the working-class communities and cultures capable of staging real revolt. Sir James Dyson moved his factory to Malaysia, so much did he love the British workforce. They talk about defying the “elite”. But they are the elite. Suppose leave wins on Thursday and, within two years, most migration from eastern Europe stops. What is the most likely outcome? For all the rhetoric about “cheap labour”, nobody in the Tory Brexit camp has promised to end it. What they actually promised is to to cut wages and scrap the laws that protect people at work. So even if the migrants stop coming, and maybe a few fruit farms and meat-packing operations in East Anglia shut down, there will still be millions of low-paid jobs on long hours. But guess who will be doing them? Most likely it will be you, the very people flag-waving for the leave camp now: low-skilled people in small towns. And should there be a shortage of unskilled workers, the Brexit camp’s figurehead – Iain Duncan Smith – knows what to do. Before ultimately resigning over benefit cuts, he had made a career out of dragging people out of wheelchairs and off sickbeds and into job assessments designed to cut their benefits.
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Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 9.02am

Originally posted by Willo

Really ?
I have been rolling my eyes and shaking my head.

I just had to laugh at the following concerning the Labour front bench:

I'm sure the EU will "Bow" and capitulate to Corbyn and his cronies.

In a big, multi-ethnic city, absorbing a lot of migrants is easy. In small towns, where social capital is already meagre, the migrant population can feel unabsorbed. The structure of temporary migration from Europe means many of those who come don’t vote, or don’t have the right to – which feels unsettling if you understand that it is only by voting that the workforce ever achieved progress. It feels as if, through migration, the establishment got to create the kind of working class it always wanted: fragmented, dislocated, politically distant, weak.

But a Brexit led by Ukip and the Tory right will not make any of these things better: it will make them worse. Take a look at the people leading the Brexit movement. Nigel Farage, Neil Hamilton, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove. They have fought all their lives for one objective: to give more power to employers and less to workers. Many leading Brexiters are on record as wanting to privatise the NHS. They revelled in the destruction of the working-class communities and cultures capable of staging real revolt. Sir James Dyson moved his factory to Malaysia, so much did he love the British workforce. They talk about defying the “elite”. But they are the elite.

Suppose leave wins on Thursday and, within two years, most migration from eastern Europe stops. What is the most likely outcome? For all the rhetoric about “cheap labour”, nobody in the Tory Brexit camp has promised to end it. What they actually promised is to to cut wages and scrap the laws that protect people at work. So even if the migrants stop coming, and maybe a few fruit farms and meat-packing operations in East Anglia shut down, there will still be millions of low-paid jobs on long hours. But guess who will be doing them? Most likely it will be you, the very people flag-waving for the leave camp now: low-skilled people in small towns. And should there be a shortage of unskilled workers, the Brexit camp’s figurehead – Iain Duncan Smith – knows what to do. Before ultimately resigning over benefit cuts, he had made a career out of dragging people out of wheelchairs and off sickbeds and into job assessments designed to cut their benefits.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 9.07am
More or Less - The Referendum by Numbers, The Cost of EU Membership, Episode 1 - @bbcradio4 [Link] Worth a listen as it is impartial, involves no politicians and looks at the claims made by both sides of the debate.
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Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 9.07am

More or Less - The Referendum by Numbers, The Cost of EU Membership, Episode 1 - @bbcradio4 [Link]

Worth a listen as it is impartial, involves no politicians and looks at the claims made by both sides of the debate.

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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 21 Jun 16 9.09am
Originally posted by nickgusset Some food for thought from Paul Mason. hard to disagree with a lot of it. [Link] As 'Willo' expertly demonstrates, the main thrust of the article regarding ''the elite'' will be completely ignored by many. Whether 'In or Out', nothing will change as this isn't a vote for change. It's a sham. Time to move forward together.
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Alphabettispaghetti 21 Jun 16 9.09am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Some food for thought from Paul Mason. hard to disagree with a lot of it.

[Link]

As 'Willo' expertly demonstrates, the main thrust of the article regarding ''the elite'' will be completely ignored by many.
Whether 'In or Out', nothing will change as this isn't a vote for change. It's a sham.

Time to move forward together.

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DivingIsNotGood se25 21 Jun 16 10.20am
Originally posted by -TUX- As 'Willo' expertly demonstrates, the main thrust of the article regarding ''the elite'' will be completely ignored by many. Whether 'In or Out', nothing will change as this isn't a vote for change. It's a sham. Not 'by many', but by most. 99% of people are totally clueless about the Rothschilds, Rockafellas and other elites. Most people don't even realise there are 1600 odd shareholders of the Bank of England. Many will disagree and say no no it was nationalised in 1964 but start searching researching, this guy is a bit of a knob but an interesting watch [Link] I'm not suggestion look on YouTube but it's a good starting block. VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again
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se25 21 Jun 16 10.20am

Originally posted by -TUX-

Not 'by many', but by most. 99% of people are totally clueless about the Rothschilds, Rockafellas and other elites. Most people don't even realise there are 1600 odd shareholders of the Bank of England. Many will disagree and say no no it was nationalised in 1964 but start searching researching, this guy is a bit of a knob but an interesting watch [Link]
I'm not suggestion look on YouTube but it's a good starting block.

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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