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Aray South London 05 Jun 19 8.43am | |
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Once we leave we have a lovely trade deal coming from the Yanks! Yay. This web page is from the US Govt Office of the US Trade Representative includes a public hearing on the objectives Link to panel discussion: [Link] Page 268 of the PDF of the panel discussion includes the statements copied below from the Brian Toohey, the representative of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturing association of America. He is saying that what the US pharmaceutical industry wants is for full access to US drugs and for the UK Health Service to pay more for them as they are depressing prices through their purchasing power and aren't paying a premium for "innovation" which they should be for a US UK trade agreement. I can hardly wait. "...First, negotiations should build on common ground to ensure transparency and due process for approving, pricing, and reimbursing pharmaceuticals. In the U.K., the government is a primary payer for medicines and, in effect, dictates prices. This dominant position often results in the U.K. failing to appropriately recognize the value of innovation in its pricing reimbursement systems, and, instead, engage in actions that distort markets and artificially depress prices. With these concerns in mind, PhRMA welcomes the administration's continued focus on the problem of advanced economies undervaluing innovative medicines. These provide an important opportunity, consistent with TPA, to ensure government regulatory reimbursement regimes are transparent, non discriminatory, and provide procedural fairness and full market access for U.S. products, which includes the setting of reimbursement amount on competitive market-derived pricing, or an equivalent process, such as one that appropriately recognized the value of an innovative product...."
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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Jun 19 9.03am | |
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Originally posted by Aray
Once we leave we have a lovely trade deal coming from the Yanks! Yay. This web page is from the US Govt Office of the US Trade Representative includes a public hearing on the objectives Link to panel discussion: [Link] Page 268 of the PDF of the panel discussion includes the statements copied below from the Brian Toohey, the representative of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturing association of America. He is saying that what the US pharmaceutical industry wants is for full access to US drugs and for the UK Health Service to pay more for them as they are depressing prices through their purchasing power and aren't paying a premium for "innovation" which they should be for a US UK trade agreement. I can hardly wait. "...First, negotiations should build on common ground to ensure transparency and due process for approving, pricing, and reimbursing pharmaceuticals. In the U.K., the government is a primary payer for medicines and, in effect, dictates prices. This dominant position often results in the U.K. failing to appropriately recognize the value of innovation in its pricing reimbursement systems, and, instead, engage in actions that distort markets and artificially depress prices. With these concerns in mind, PhRMA welcomes the administration's continued focus on the problem of advanced economies undervaluing innovative medicines. These provide an important opportunity, consistent with TPA, to ensure government regulatory reimbursement regimes are transparent, non discriminatory, and provide procedural fairness and full market access for U.S. products, which includes the setting of reimbursement amount on competitive market-derived pricing, or an equivalent process, such as one that appropriately recognized the value of an innovative product...." It's their negotiating position or wish list. We don't have to sign a trade deal if it is bad.
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Mapletree Croydon 05 Jun 19 9.30am | |
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Really? But everything was in black and white. Got a link?
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dannyboy1978 05 Jun 19 9.33am | |
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Originally posted by Aray
Once we leave we have a lovely trade deal coming from the Yanks! Yay. This web page is from the US Govt Office of the US Trade Representative includes a public hearing on the objectives Link to panel discussion: [Link] Page 268 of the PDF of the panel discussion includes the statements copied below from the Brian Toohey, the representative of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturing association of America. He is saying that what the US pharmaceutical industry wants is for full access to US drugs and for the UK Health Service to pay more for them as they are depressing prices through their purchasing power and aren't paying a premium for "innovation" which they should be for a US UK trade agreement. I can hardly wait. "...First, negotiations should build on common ground to ensure transparency and due process for approving, pricing, and reimbursing pharmaceuticals. In the U.K., the government is a primary payer for medicines and, in effect, dictates prices. This dominant position often results in the U.K. failing to appropriately recognize the value of innovation in its pricing reimbursement systems, and, instead, engage in actions that distort markets and artificially depress prices. With these concerns in mind, PhRMA welcomes the administration's continued focus on the problem of advanced economies undervaluing innovative medicines. These provide an important opportunity, consistent with TPA, to ensure government regulatory reimbursement regimes are transparent, non discriminatory, and provide procedural fairness and full market access for U.S. products, which includes the setting of reimbursement amount on competitive market-derived pricing, or an equivalent process, such as one that appropriately recognized the value of an innovative product...." So why arnt the left out protesting now.
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Mapletree Croydon 05 Jun 19 9.38am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
It's their negotiating position or wish list. We don't have to sign a trade deal if it is bad. We are being backed into a corner. We will be desperate for markets post Brexit. My old employer very clearly intended and intends to subsume the most lucrative elements of the NHS. In addition there is no doubt we will be forced to accept US meat. A race to the bottom. Americans always believe the American way is best and the sooner we simply accept that and become one of its States the better. Ot maybe four of its States.
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Stirlingsays 05 Jun 19 9.40am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Really? But everything was in black and white. Got a link? I provided one originally and the research on the long term declining happiness levels of women is out there. The more feminism and social liberalism has been pushed the less happy the majority of women have become. The real breakthroughs and improvements within society have been technological. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2019 9.40am)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Jun 19 9.52am | |
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Reminds me of one of Micky Flanagan’s first 2 stand up DVD’s (his 3rd was just gratuitous swearing). ‘My wife was sat with me one night and said ‘I don’t like my job anymore. Shall we have a baby?’’ Ha Ha.
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Midlands Eagle 05 Jun 19 10.06am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
It seems that the left only protest when it isn't raining
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Midlands Eagle 05 Jun 19 10.20am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
There are a number of articles available about American farming methods but they all seem to be written by vested interests so it's difficult to know what's true and what isn't. EU and UK studies quote a high level of bacteria in a significant proportion of American chickens but fail to mention that high levels of bacteria have also been found in British chickens removed from supermarket shelves and tested. In the final analysis if the purchase of American meat forms part of our trade deal the supermarkets and processed food manufacturers don't actually have to buy it and even if they do the consumers can always leave it on the supermarket shelves
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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jun 19 10.38am | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
And you sir, are too thick to understand the following: Parliament will not sanction a no deal exit on their own Therefore there is only one way out of this, another vote. If you really want to crash out of the EU overnight, it would have to be voted on because parliament are not going to do that.
You can have your referendum on how we leave but there can be no remain option.
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Mapletree Croydon 05 Jun 19 11.31am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
There are a number of articles available about American farming methods but they all seem to be written by vested interests so it's difficult to know what's true and what isn't. EU and UK studies quote a high level of bacteria in a significant proportion of American chickens but fail to mention that high levels of bacteria have also been found in British chickens removed from supermarket shelves and tested. In the final analysis if the purchase of American meat forms part of our trade deal the supermarkets and processed food manufacturers don't actually have to buy it and even if they do the consumers can always leave it on the supermarket shelves I have given you the facts on this before Look at the types of bacteria and the numbers of serious infections. This is a black and white issue In addition, farming methods are miles better in the UK and EU than in the US US topsoil degradation is far more advanced than in the UK. Reliability of supply will fast become a problem once we emasculate our indigenous industry. But hey, what do I know?
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cpfc_chap koh samui 05 Jun 19 11.57am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
We are being backed into a corner. We will be desperate for markets post Brexit. My old employer very clearly intended and intends to subsume the most lucrative elements of the NHS. In addition there is no doubt we will be forced to accept US meat. A race to the bottom. Americans always believe the American way is best and the sooner we simply accept that and become one of its States the better. Ot maybe four of its States. Do you know our drinking water is chlorinated just like our salads. When was the last time the U.S had foot and mouth, MAD cow disease or any other major issues with there meats? However I dare say you'd be able to choose what meat you put in your trolley!
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