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legaleagle 21 Feb 15 12.30pm
I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage. As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you. As for Farage, I would have to disagree with you.Leave policies out of it.I think he (like most politicians)is very adept at not directly answering touch questions he wants to avoid, and is a savvy political and PR "operator" with so much in common in that way with our established political elite. Milliband suffers compared to others precisely because he's not such a savvy operator/PR person. Clegg did well last time because he was savvy at making people think he was "alternative" and "different". We all know the reality. Farage is no different IMO as a politician,leaving the nature of the policies he espouses out of it.
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21 Feb 15 12.30pm

I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage.

As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you.

As for Farage, I would have to disagree with you.Leave policies out of it.I think he (like most politicians)is very adept at not directly answering touch questions he wants to avoid, and is a savvy political and PR "operator" with so much in common in that way with our established political elite. Milliband suffers compared to others precisely because he's not such a savvy operator/PR person.

Clegg did well last time because he was savvy at making people think he was "alternative" and "different". We all know the reality. Farage is no different IMO as a politician,leaving the nature of the policies he espouses out of it.

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matt_himself Matataland 21 Feb 15 12.52pm
Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage. As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you. As for Farage, I would have to disagree with you.Leave policies out of it.I think he (like most politicians)is very adept at not directly answering touch questions he wants to avoid, and is a savvy political and PR "operator" with so much in common in that way with our established political elite. Milliband suffers compared to others precisely because he's not such a savvy operator/PR person. Clegg did well last time because he was savvy at making people think he was "alternative" and "different". We all know the reality. Farage is no different IMO as a politician,leaving the nature of the policies he espouses out of it. Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'. Miliband suffers because he is so out of touch with voters, he may as well live on Mars. He is a posho, who has never worked outside of politics, from a privileged background, who surrounds himself with Camden intellectuals (privileged lefties) and who finds himself leader of the 'workers party', dictating a bunch of policies that make little sense, would plunge Britain into recession and many of which are driven by Labour's continued social engineering drive which the working class see as having nothig to do with them. Farage appeals to those alienated by the left and Labour. And far from your repeateded bleatings that 'all ukip supporters blame everything on immigrants', I think you would find that if you bothered to speak to these people, they are driven into Farages arms because his message comes across as honest, counter political hegemony and distinct from the established parties. Edited by matt_himself (21 Feb 2015 12.53pm) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm

I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage.

As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you.

Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'.

Miliband suffers because he is so out of touch with voters, he may as well live on Mars. He is a posho, who has never worked outside of politics, from a privileged background, who surrounds himself with Camden intellectuals (privileged lefties) and who finds himself leader of the 'workers party', dictating a bunch of policies that make little sense, would plunge Britain into recession and many of which are driven by Labour's continued social engineering drive which the working class see as having nothig to do with them.

Farage appeals to those alienated by the left and Labour. And far from your repeateded bleatings that 'all ukip supporters blame everything on immigrants', I think you would find that if you bothered to speak to these people, they are driven into Farages arms because his message comes across as honest, counter political hegemony and distinct from the established parties.

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legaleagle 21 Feb 15 1.03pm
Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 12.52pm Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage. As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you. As for Farage, I would have to disagree with you.Leave policies out of it.I think he (like most politicians)is very adept at not directly answering touch questions he wants to avoid, and is a savvy political and PR "operator" with so much in common in that way with our established political elite. Milliband suffers compared to others precisely because he's not such a savvy operator/PR person. Clegg did well last time because he was savvy at making people think he was "alternative" and "different". We all know the reality. Farage is no different IMO as a politician,leaving the nature of the policies he espouses out of it. Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'. Miliband suffers because he is so out of touch with voters, he may as well live on Mars. He is a posho, who has never worked outside of politics, from a privileged background, who surrounds himself with Camden intellectuals (privileged lefties) and who finds himself leader of the 'workers party', dictating a bunch of policies that make little sense, would plunge Britain into recession and many of which are driven by Labour's continued social engineering drive which the working class see as having nothig to do with them. Farage appeals to those alienated by the left and Labour. And far from your repeateded bleatings that 'all ukip supporters blame everything on immigrants', I think you would find that if you bothered to speak to these people, they are driven into Farages arms because his message comes across as honest, counter political hegemony and distinct from the established parties. Edited by matt_himself (21 Feb 2015 12.53pm) Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I certainly agree with you that Farage's message is perceived by very many UKIP supporters as coming across in precisely the way you describe. As for my postings (and thank you for describing them as "bleatings" in your inimitable woolly way), if you actually read them before posting,I think you would find I have not "repeatedly" suggested "all UKIP supporters blame everything on immigrants". Edited by legaleagle (21 Feb 2015 1.06pm)
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21 Feb 15 1.03pm

Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 12.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm

I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage.

As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you.

Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'.

Edited by matt_himself (21 Feb 2015 12.53pm)

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I certainly agree with you that Farage's message is perceived by very many UKIP supporters as coming across in precisely the way you describe.

As for my postings (and thank you for describing them as "bleatings" in your inimitable woolly way), if you actually read them before posting,I think you would find I have not "repeatedly" suggested "all UKIP supporters blame everything on immigrants".

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Kermit8 Hevon 21 Feb 15 1.06pm
Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 12.52pm Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage. As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you. As for Farage, I would have to disagree with you.Leave policies out of it.I think he (like most politicians)is very adept at not directly answering touch questions he wants to avoid, and is a savvy political and PR "operator" with so much in common in that way with our established political elite. Milliband suffers compared to others precisely because he's not such a savvy operator/PR person. Clegg did well last time because he was savvy at making people think he was "alternative" and "different". We all know the reality. Farage is no different IMO as a politician,leaving the nature of the policies he espouses out of it. Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'. Miliband suffers because he is so out of touch with voters, he may as well live on Mars. He is a posho, who has never worked outside of politics, from a privileged background, who surrounds himself with Camden intellectuals (privileged lefties) and who finds himself leader of the 'workers party', dictating a bunch of policies that make little sense, would plunge Britain into recession and many of which are driven by Labour's continued social engineering drive which the working class see as having nothig to do with them. Farage appeals to those alienated by the left and Labour. And far from your repeateded bleatings that 'all ukip supporters blame everything on immigrants', I think you would find that if you bothered to speak to these people, they are driven into Farages arms because his message comes across as honest, counter political hegemony and distinct from the established parties. Edited by matt_himself (21 Feb 2015 12.53pm) The only bits I disagree with. 1) The Right have held the reins of power for 23 of the last 36 years. How can you apportion all your blame on one ideology when the other side have had that long as The Government and, thus, be party to it. 2) Farage is a populist. He says things you want to hear. That is not being honest. It is being politically savvy. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 12.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm

I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage.

As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you.

Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'.

Miliband suffers because he is so out of touch with voters, he may as well live on Mars. He is a posho, who has never worked outside of politics, from a privileged background, who surrounds himself with Camden intellectuals (privileged lefties) and who finds himself leader of the 'workers party', dictating a bunch of policies that make little sense, would plunge Britain into recession and many of which are driven by Labour's continued social engineering drive which the working class see as having nothig to do with them.

Farage appeals to those alienated by the left and Labour. And far from your repeateded bleatings that 'all ukip supporters blame everything on immigrants', I think you would find that if you bothered to speak to these people, they are driven into Farages arms because his message comes across as honest, counter political hegemony and distinct from the established parties.

Edited by matt_himself (21 Feb 2015 12.53pm)

The only bits I disagree with.

1) The Right have held the reins of power for 23 of the last 36 years. How can you apportion all your blame on one ideology when the other side have had that long as The Government and, thus, be party to it.

2) Farage is a populist. He says things you want to hear. That is not being honest. It is being politically savvy.

Big chest and massive boobs

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legaleagle 21 Feb 15 1.28pm
I went to a funeral last week and got talking to a friend of a friend I only run into briefly perhaps every 5 years or so.A middle class person.I knew nothing about their politics. They said they were going to vote UKIP in May because they were fed up with feeling they could not talk about "brown people" any more. It would be nonsense to say one person's views represent UKIP voters generally or even the view of many voters,since it was just the view of that one person. But, it was the reason given to me by one person for their voting intention this time and so plainly,for whatever reason,that's why the party appealed to them personally as opposed to the other parties. Edited by legaleagle (21 Feb 2015 1.38pm)
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21 Feb 15 1.28pm

I went to a funeral last week and got talking to a friend of a friend I only run into briefly perhaps every 5 years or so.A middle class person.I knew nothing about their politics. They said they were going to vote UKIP in May because they were fed up with feeling they could not talk about "brown people" any more.

It would be nonsense to say one person's views represent UKIP voters generally or even the view of many voters,since it was just the view of that one person. But, it was the reason given to me by one person for their voting intention this time and so plainly,for whatever reason,that's why the party appealed to them personally as opposed to the other parties.

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imbored UK 21 Feb 15 2.18pm
Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 1.28pm I went to a funeral last week and got talking to a friend of a friend I only run into briefly perhaps every 5 years or so.A university educated middle class person.I knew nothing about their politics. They said they were going to vote UKIP in May because they were fed up with feeling they could not talk about "brown people" any more. It would be nonsense to say one person's views represent UKIP voters generally or even the view of many voters,since it was just the view of that one person. But, it was the reason given to me by one person for their voting intention this time and so plainly,for whatever reason,that's why the party appealed to them personally as opposed to the other parties. I don't even know why people fight this reality. It's abundantly clear that not insignificant numbers of people vote for UKIP based on a perceived erosion of their identity, whether that's national, racial, difference in general. Some are open about it like this guy, others obfuscate behind talk of being on the tube and "not knowing what country they're in". There is a reason that UKIP isn't going to be a particularly popular choice with, for instance, black British voters in the coming election. This isn't imagined. At the same time, obviously the party isn't the BNP, though it's partially inherited that voter base, Nick Griffin included. Plenty voting for UKIP have no problem with people of other races or ethnicities. If you want out of the EU, it's the only show in town. Many people have mixed motivations though, as is true of voters of any party. Nigel Farage is a very competent and relatable political figure there's no doubt about that. In a time where there is a distrust in established parties he connects in a way that Cameron, Milliband and Clegg cannot... but then so does Russell Brand, so the value of this connection is debatable. Edited by imbored (21 Feb 2015 2.19pm)
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UK 21 Feb 15 2.18pm

Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 1.28pm

I went to a funeral last week and got talking to a friend of a friend I only run into briefly perhaps every 5 years or so.A university educated middle class person.I knew nothing about their politics. They said they were going to vote UKIP in May because they were fed up with feeling they could not talk about "brown people" any more.

I don't even know why people fight this reality. It's abundantly clear that not insignificant numbers of people vote for UKIP based on a perceived erosion of their identity, whether that's national, racial, difference in general. Some are open about it like this guy, others obfuscate behind talk of being on the tube and "not knowing what country they're in". There is a reason that UKIP isn't going to be a particularly popular choice with, for instance, black British voters in the coming election. This isn't imagined.

At the same time, obviously the party isn't the BNP, though it's partially inherited that voter base, Nick Griffin included. Plenty voting for UKIP have no problem with people of other races or ethnicities. If you want out of the EU, it's the only show in town. Many people have mixed motivations though, as is true of voters of any party. Nigel Farage is a very competent and relatable political figure there's no doubt about that. In a time where there is a distrust in established parties he connects in a way that Cameron, Milliband and Clegg cannot... but then so does Russell Brand, so the value of this connection is debatable.

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Stirlingsays 21 Feb 15 2.48pm
Quote imbored at 21 Feb 2015 2.18pm I don't even know why people fight this reality. It's abundantly clear that not insignificant numbers of people vote for UKIP based on a perceived erosion of their identity, whether that's national, racial, difference in general. Some are open about it like this guy, others obfuscate behind talk of being on the tube and "not knowing what country they're in". There is a reason that UKIP isn't going to be a particularly popular choice with, for instance, black British voters in the coming election. This isn't imagined. At the same time, obviously the party isn't the BNP, though it's partially inherited that voter base, Nick Griffin included. Plenty voting for UKIP have no problem with people of other races or ethnicities. If you want out of the EU, it's the only show in town. Many people have mixed motivations though, as is true of voters of any party. Nigel Farage is a very competent and relatable political figure there's no doubt about that. In a time where there is a distrust in established parties he connects in a way that Cameron, Milliband and Clegg cannot... but then so does Russell Brand, so the value of this connection is debatable. Edited by imbored (21 Feb 2015 2.19pm) I actually quite liked most of this post. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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21 Feb 15 2.48pm

Quote imbored at 21 Feb 2015 2.18pm

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I actually quite liked most of this post.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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matt_himself Matataland 21 Feb 15 7.39pm
Quote Kermit8 at 21 Feb 2015 1.06pm Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 12.52pm Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage. As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you. As for Farage, I would have to disagree with you.Leave policies out of it.I think he (like most politicians)is very adept at not directly answering touch questions he wants to avoid, and is a savvy political and PR "operator" with so much in common in that way with our established political elite. Milliband suffers compared to others precisely because he's not such a savvy operator/PR person. Clegg did well last time because he was savvy at making people think he was "alternative" and "different". We all know the reality. Farage is no different IMO as a politician,leaving the nature of the policies he espouses out of it. Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'. Miliband suffers because he is so out of touch with voters, he may as well live on Mars. He is a posho, who has never worked outside of politics, from a privileged background, who surrounds himself with Camden intellectuals (privileged lefties) and who finds himself leader of the 'workers party', dictating a bunch of policies that make little sense, would plunge Britain into recession and many of which are driven by Labour's continued social engineering drive which the working class see as having nothig to do with them. Farage appeals to those alienated by the left and Labour. And far from your repeateded bleatings that 'all ukip supporters blame everything on immigrants', I think you would find that if you bothered to speak to these people, they are driven into Farages arms because his message comes across as honest, counter political hegemony and distinct from the established parties. Edited by matt_himself (21 Feb 2015 12.53pm) The only bits I disagree with. 1) The Right have held the reins of power for 23 of the last 36 years. How can you apportion all your blame on one ideology when the other side have had that long as The Government and, thus, be party to it. 2) Farage is a populist. He says things you want to hear. That is not being honest. It is being politically savvy. 1. Under Labour, Britain embarked upon the social engineering project that is multiculturalism. Labour wanted it, Labour pursued it and Labour defend it. It is flawed. Indiginous communities resent having new communities thrust upon them, the immigrant communities feel marginalised, hated and stick to their own. Question this, and you are racist; 2. Pray tell where Nige has lied. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 21 Feb 15 7.39pm

Quote Kermit8 at 21 Feb 2015 1.06pm

Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 12.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm

I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage.

As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you.

Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'.

Miliband suffers because he is so out of touch with voters, he may as well live on Mars. He is a posho, who has never worked outside of politics, from a privileged background, who surrounds himself with Camden intellectuals (privileged lefties) and who finds himself leader of the 'workers party', dictating a bunch of policies that make little sense, would plunge Britain into recession and many of which are driven by Labour's continued social engineering drive which the working class see as having nothig to do with them.

Farage appeals to those alienated by the left and Labour. And far from your repeateded bleatings that 'all ukip supporters blame everything on immigrants', I think you would find that if you bothered to speak to these people, they are driven into Farages arms because his message comes across as honest, counter political hegemony and distinct from the established parties.

Edited by matt_himself (21 Feb 2015 12.53pm)

The only bits I disagree with.

2) Farage is a populist. He says things you want to hear. That is not being honest. It is being politically savvy.

1. Under Labour, Britain embarked upon the social engineering project that is multiculturalism. Labour wanted it, Labour pursued it and Labour defend it. It is flawed. Indiginous communities resent having new communities thrust upon them, the immigrant communities feel marginalised, hated and stick to their own. Question this, and you are racist;
2. Pray tell where Nige has lied.

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matt_himself Matataland 21 Feb 15 7.41pm
Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 1.03pm Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 12.52pm Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage. As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you. As for Farage, I would have to disagree with you.Leave policies out of it.I think he (like most politicians)is very adept at not directly answering touch questions he wants to avoid, and is a savvy political and PR "operator" with so much in common in that way with our established political elite. Milliband suffers compared to others precisely because he's not such a savvy operator/PR person. Clegg did well last time because he was savvy at making people think he was "alternative" and "different". We all know the reality. Farage is no different IMO as a politician,leaving the nature of the policies he espouses out of it. Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'. Miliband suffers because he is so out of touch with voters, he may as well live on Mars. He is a posho, who has never worked outside of politics, from a privileged background, who surrounds himself with Camden intellectuals (privileged lefties) and who finds himself leader of the 'workers party', dictating a bunch of policies that make little sense, would plunge Britain into recession and many of which are driven by Labour's continued social engineering drive which the working class see as having nothig to do with them. Farage appeals to those alienated by the left and Labour. And far from your repeateded bleatings that 'all ukip supporters blame everything on immigrants', I think you would find that if you bothered to speak to these people, they are driven into Farages arms because his message comes across as honest, counter political hegemony and distinct from the established parties. Edited by matt_himself (21 Feb 2015 12.53pm) Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I certainly agree with you that Farage's message is perceived by very many UKIP supporters as coming across in precisely the way you describe. As for my postings (and thank you for describing them as "bleatings" in your inimitable woolly way), if you actually read them before posting,I think you would find I have not "repeatedly" suggested "all UKIP supporters blame everything on immigrants". Edited by legaleagle (21 Feb 2015 1.06pm) What you think is evident in every word of what you write, despite your attempts to dress up your hatred of ukip with 'clever words'. I believe you hate ukip supporters and believe them to be racists from your posts. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 1.03pm

Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 12.52pm

Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 12.30pm

I hardly think you can say Lord Green has received minimal media attention and Milliband has hardly been devoid of negative media coverage.

As for Clegg,I could not possibly disagree with you.

Miliband doesn't suffer because he's 'not such a savvy operator/PR person'.

Edited by matt_himself (21 Feb 2015 12.53pm)

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I certainly agree with you that Farage's message is perceived by very many UKIP supporters as coming across in precisely the way you describe.

Edited by legaleagle (21 Feb 2015 1.06pm)

What you think is evident in every word of what you write, despite your attempts to dress up your hatred of ukip with 'clever words'.

I believe you hate ukip supporters and believe them to be racists from your posts.

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Stirlingsays 21 Feb 15 7.59pm
Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 7.39pm 1. Under Labour, Britain embarked upon the social engineering project that is multiculturalism. Labour wanted it, Labour pursued it and Labour defend it. It is flawed. Indiginous communities resent having new communities thrust upon them, the immigrant communities feel marginalised, hated and stick to their own. Question this, and you are racist; 2. Pray tell where Nige has lied. Yup pretty much spot on. If you prefer British culture to a foreign one.....even in your own country you get called a bigot or worse. I have far less problem with the actual immigrant.....Who is just doing what's in their best interest and more of a problem with those whose politics are turning this country into a packed mess where our own underclass can't even get a factory job. Blair received a medal for services to the Polish.....Now that medal should have been spread amongst all the lefty chattering classes who implicitly, like he did, stick two fingers up to their own working classes. 'White van man', indeed. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote matt_himself at 21 Feb 2015 7.39pm

Yup pretty much spot on.

If you prefer British culture to a foreign one.....even in your own country you get called a bigot or worse.

I have far less problem with the actual immigrant.....Who is just doing what's in their best interest and more of a problem with those whose politics are turning this country into a packed mess where our own underclass can't even get a factory job.

Blair received a medal for services to the Polish.....Now that medal should have been spread amongst all the lefty chattering classes who implicitly, like he did, stick two fingers up to their own working classes.

'White van man', indeed.

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 21 Feb 15 8.17pm
Quote legaleagle at 21 Feb 2015 1.28pm I went to a funeral last week and got talking to a friend of a friend I only run into briefly perhaps every 5 years or so.A middle class person.I knew nothing about their politics. They said they were going to vote UKIP in May because they were fed up with feeling they could not talk about "brown people" any more. It would be nonsense to say one person's views represent UKIP voters generally or even the view of many voters,since it was just the view of that one person. But, it was the reason given to me by one person for their voting intention this time and so plainly,for whatever reason,that's why the party appealed to them personally as opposed to the other parties. Edited by legaleagle (21 Feb 2015 1.38pm) I’m a ‘brown person’ (well half brown anyway) – Yet I vote for UKIP, I wonder what my reasons for voting for them are? I’m also a successful company director so there goes the argument that I must be some sort of angry guy on the fringes of society.. Instead of trying to denigrate UKIP voters why not accept that the country is in a bloody mess and that UKIP actually have the balls to raise their heads above the parapet to address the issues that the other parties would rather sweep under the carpet. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Edited by legaleagle (21 Feb 2015 1.38pm)

I’m a ‘brown person’ (well half brown anyway) – Yet I vote for UKIP, I wonder what my reasons for voting for them are? I’m also a successful company director so there goes the argument that I must be some sort of angry guy on the fringes of society..
Instead of trying to denigrate UKIP voters why not accept that the country is in a bloody mess and that UKIP actually have the balls to raise their heads above the parapet to address the issues that the other parties would rather sweep under the carpet.

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Stirlingsays 21 Feb 15 8.28pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 21 Feb 2015 8.17pm I’m a ‘brown person’ (well half brown anyway) – Yet I vote for UKIP, I wonder what my reasons for voting for them are? I’m also a successful company director so there goes the argument that I must be some sort of angry guy on the fringes of society.. Instead of trying to denigrate UKIP voters why not accept that the country is in a bloody mess and that UKIP actually have the balls to raise their heads above the parapet to address the issues that the other parties would rather sweep under the carpet. Well said that man. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote Tom-the-eagle at 21 Feb 2015 8.17pm

Well said that man.

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