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 Stirlingsays  02 Jun 19 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Threw me there for a moment I thought you had found out about my 'special attribute'.
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| Stirlingsays 02 Jun 19 5.51pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
And keep the pound. The great independence party still wants the rest of the UK to bail it out should they get into financial trouble. How is that independence? Whilst I don't like the SNP, because they blame England for policies they are responsible for, they do have a point about Indy2. During the first referendum they were all told vote no to stay in the union and the EU. That and the mess Salmon made over which currency they would use: It's the euro, no pound, no euro (shake it all about) saw the Remainers home. After we have left I do think they deserved another referendum for that reason, it wasn't a slogan on a bus. However if it happens I would ask the SNP everyday what currency will you use and forget about the pound it aint happening. When you divorce someone you don't give them free access to your bank account and credit cards. They need to explain their solution to the Scottish people. By the way if they do vote to leave I know a man who can build us a wall to keep the tartan hordes out. Edited by Badger11 (02 Jun 2019 4.48pm)
I don't believe in enforced unions but by the same token I find the attitude of the Scots to the pound annoying in the extreme. Geoff Boycott use to say something about the Yorkshire board.....'You don't like me, but you like me runs'. With the SNP you just want to say....either get on the frigging horse or get off the frigging horse. You can't have one foot on and one foot off. I'd have no issues with an independent Scotland, but the Pound is a currency that's controlled by the Bank of England....they should take the Euro if they chose the EU.
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| Spiderman Horsham 02 Jun 19 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Oh but I do. I heard "Any Questions" only last Thursday on Radio 4 which had a Brexit Party MEP on the panel and I believe that "Question Time" too had such a representative. Just because there is a current wave of protest votes doesn't mean that you suddenly give equal coverage to those making the most noise. Such a policy could result in dire consequences. Broadcasters need to ensure that the arguments of protesters are heard but they need to keep a long term focus in view. MEPs don't sit in our Parliament. I realise that those who support a hard Brexit will feel outraged that their views are not being seen as worthy of equal air time but the fact is that they are in the minority, both in Parliament and in the country, and the BBC are merely reflecting that. Keeping a balance in these troubled times must be very hard for them. Maybe in Parliament but in the country? Not sure about that but you believe what you want
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 02 Jun 19 10.20pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Maybe in Parliament but in the country? Not sure about that but you believe what you want People are still in denial every brexit voter I know just wants out! deal or no deal.
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johnno42000  03 Jun 19 6.44am |
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Ok. Thought I'd give this a go as quite a few people on this thread appear anti-left wing. Not all of us are nutters. Do I like Corbyn. No. Do I like all of Labours policy's. No. Am I worried about mass immigration. Yes. Do I like the anti-semitism most definitely not and, quite frankly, the party should be ashamed. Things I like about Labour/the Left. Re-nationalising some things that should never have been put into the private sector, water, rail mainly. Tax rates for the richest 10% should be increased, not to a ridiculous amount but I think they should pay more. More social housing to be built. There are more that I like and more that I don't but, on balance, they are the party for me and I shall try and fight to change the things I don't like.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Jun 19 7.55am |
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Great, but what about Brexit? To you and Labour.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 Jun 19 7.56am |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
Ok. Thought I'd give this a go as quite a few people on this thread appear anti-left wing. Not all of us are nutters. Do I like Corbyn. No. Do I like all of Labours policy's. No. Am I worried about mass immigration. Yes. Do I like the anti-semitism most definitely not and, quite frankly, the party should be ashamed. Things I like about Labour/the Left. Re-nationalising some things that should never have been put into the private sector, water, rail mainly. Tax rates for the richest 10% should be increased, not to a ridiculous amount but I think they should pay more. More social housing to be built. There are more that I like and more that I don't but, on balance, they are the party for me and I shall try and fight to change the things I don't like. Fair enough a reasonable position to take. By the way I think Labour is missing a trick with regard to tax rates. They often say they will raise taxes which puts the back up of many people in this country even when it wont impact them. I don't believe you need to do that to raise extra revenue. Since the 1960's the Tax document has physically increased due to successive chancellors introducing gimmicky tax breaks. Labour would get a lot of plaudits if it said I will keep the tax rates the same but close many loopholes. These loopholes are normally exploited only by the rich so shouldn't impact most of us but would increase tax revenue. Anyway good luck we need more sensible Labour supporters on this site and in general.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Jun 19 8.11am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Fair enough a reasonable position to take. By the way I think Labour is missing a trick with regard to tax rates. They often say they will raise taxes which puts the back up of many people in this country even when it wont impact them. I don't believe you need to do that to raise extra revenue. Since the 1960's the Tax document has physically increased due to successive chancellors introducing gimmicky tax breaks. Labour would get a lot of plaudits if it said I will keep the tax rates the same but close many loopholes. These loopholes are normally exploited only by the rich so shouldn't impact most of us but would increase tax revenue. Anyway good luck we need more sensible Labour supporters on this site and in general. Introducing an additional sales tax to internet shopping that can be deducted if U.K. direct taxes are paid would be a good policy. Trouble is Corbyn and is surrounded by incompetent muppets many don’t have any confidence in, and for good reason.
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| johnno42000 03 Jun 19 10.09am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Great, but what about Brexit? To you and Labour. I voted remain but remain lost so we should leave. I don't believe in the no deal idea. No idea about Labour, or the Tories for that matter. I also don't believe in the theory that a trade deal with America should be our main aim after leaving, simply because Trump has shown what he does regarding tariffs, sanctions etc with countries they trade with who don't want to play by his rules. I just have a feeling we would be very much the tart, and he the pimp, in any agreement. Edited by johnno42000 (03 Jun 2019 10.10am)
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| elgrande bedford 03 Jun 19 7.19pm |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
Ok. Thought I'd give this a go as quite a few people on this thread appear anti-left wing. Not all of us are nutters. Do I like Corbyn. No. Do I like all of Labours policy's. No. Am I worried about mass immigration. Yes. Do I like the anti-semitism most definitely not and, quite frankly, the party should be ashamed. Things I like about Labour/the Left. Re-nationalising some things that should never have been put into the private sector, water, rail mainly. Tax rates for the richest 10% should be increased, not to a ridiculous amount but I think they should pay more. More social housing to be built. There are more that I like and more that I don't but, on balance, they are the party for me and I shall try and fight to change the things I don't like. Very balanced view, but the problem is if you want to stay in Europe..you cannot re nationalise.
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| johnno42000 03 Jun 19 7.52pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Very balanced view, but the problem is if you want to stay in Europe..you cannot re nationalise. I'm not really up on things to do with European regulations. Is there a regulation that says you can't? Must admit I have no idea but I did think that the East Coast Line was taken back into public ownership.
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| Maine Eagle USA 03 Jun 19 9.42pm |
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Ho hum another day in the books. And the ever present truth remains: The WA is dead and can never be reanimated. There will never be a no deal crash out of the EU which is signed off on by parliament. Bercow will ensure parliament has a say on that and that even charming, cuddly, harmless toff prime ministers cannot decree that unilaterally. The only way a no deal exit can happen, is if it is explicitly voted for by the public. The only way a no deal exit will be put on the ballot paper, is if revoking article 50 is next to it. There is no way on earth more people in this country want a no deal exit, than want to stay in the EU. Therefore we are now 1 day closer to the cancellation of Brexit.
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