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Part Time James Flag 20 Jun 16 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Driving back home from my mother's in deepest Kent today I saw about 50 leave placards but no remain ones.
On the face of it, it would seem that leave is in the ascendancy. However the areas I passed through are sparsely populated. As far as I know metropolitan areas are more remaincentric (made up word of the day)

Now I'm going to show my ignorance with this question (and my can't be arsedness to Google). How is the vote decided. Is it constituency by constituency and the winner is the most constituencies won. Or are all votes counted as a whole?

Blimey, good question! Why do I not know?!

I think you'll see a lot of Leave placards in rural areas especially near farms as I think farmers (rightly or wrongly) will believe the Leave vote to benefit them.

Also I think Leave campaigners are more passionate about it especially after months of largely being behind in the polls. That alone might swing it if it impacts polling turnout. Probably not, but maybe.

Edited by Part Time James (20 Jun 2016 5.40pm)

 




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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Jun 16 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Driving back home from my mother's in deepest Kent today I saw about 50 leave placards but no remain ones.
On the face of it, it would seem that leave is in the ascendancy. However the areas I passed through are sparsely populated. As far as I know metropolitan areas are more remaincentric (made up word of the day)

Now I'm going to show my ignorance with this question (and my can't be arsedness to Google). How is the vote decided. Is it constituency by constituency and the winner is the most constituencies won. Or are all votes counted as a whole?

Yep. It's whichever side gets 50.0001% of the vote or more than wins. Quebec back in '96 was something like 49.5/50.5 for independence from Canada.

 


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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 20 Jun 16 5.40pm Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

Blimey, good question! Why do I not know?!

I think you'll see a lot of Leave placards in rural areas especially near farms as I think farmers (rightly or wrongly) will believe the Leave vote to benefit them.

Also I think Leave campaigners are more passionate about it especially after months of largeky being behind in the polls. That alone might swing it if it impacts polling turnout. Probably not, but maybe.

I think livestock are natural OUT voters. They feel threatened by all the Argentian beef and New Zealand lamb.

Hang on. How can that be if it's impossible to trade outside Europe if we leave?

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 16 5.41pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Driving back home from my mother's in deepest Kent today I saw about 50 leave placards but no remain ones.

Driving back on the A24 the other day between Dorking and Horsham I saw a large "Vote Leave" board which had been the subject of graffiti.Above "Vote Leave" were the words "Dont" and under was written "I can make my own mind up...." etc etc.Couldn't read it all as I was driving.On the whole I have witnessed a number of "Out" posters and only a couple of "Remain" ones.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 5.46pm

Originally posted by Willo

Driving back on the A24 the other day between Dorking and Horsham I saw a large "Vote Leave" board which had been the subject of graffiti.Above "Vote Leave" were the words "Dont" and under was written "I can make my own mind up...." etc etc.Couldn't read it all as I was driving.On the whole I have witnessed a number of "Out" posters and only a couple of "Remain" ones.

The remain logo reminds me of LWT 's old logo

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 5.55pm

Was talking to my mum about the referendum today. It's taken her a while but she's voting leave. She is wavering a little because, she said, 'the bloke who runs the strawberry and raspberry farm relies on temporary labour from the EU to pick the fruit as locals won't do it is voting remain' She asked him why the locals won't do it. His response, 'the locals are lazy b******s who are scared of a bit of hard work'

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jun 16 6.06pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Was talking to my mum about the referendum today. It's taken her a while but she's voting leave. She is wavering a little because, she said, 'the bloke who runs the strawberry and raspberry farm relies on temporary labour from the EU to pick the fruit as locals won't do it is voting remain' She asked him why the locals won't do it. His response, 'the locals are lazy b******s who are scared of a bit of hard work'

I like this mythology that the British are lazy. The British have different aspirations and a better standard of living to those migrants who come here to pick fruit.

Maybe if the farmer could pay better wages because he wasn't being squeezed by the buyer, then it might be different.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 20 Jun 16 6.10pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I like this mythology that the British are lazy. The British have different aspirations and a better standard of living to those migrants who come here to pick fruit.

Maybe if the farmer could pay better wages because he wasn't being squeezed by the buyer, then it might be different.

Yep, the death of local shops due to the rise of supermarkets since Thatcher's vision has forced him to use a foreign workforce. It's Thatcher's fault. Again.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Jun 16 6.25pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Vote remain and things I don't like about the EU will gradually worsen to the point when in a decade or two's time I'll be mightily p1ssed off that the late deciders voted to stay.

Vote leave and after the period of uncertainty, renegotiation and the country finding its equilibrium in financial and economic variables we'll be pleased we've made the break to determine what our country does and why.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Jun 16 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Vote remain and things I don't like about the EU will gradually worsen to the point when in a decade or two's time I'll be mightily p1ssed off that the late deciders voted to stay.

Vote leave and after the period of uncertainty, renegotiation and the country finding its equilibrium in financial and economic variables we'll be pleased we've made the break to determine what our country does and why.

How long would that have taken bearing in mind too that our economy will have contracted after Brexit?

 


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leifandersonshair Flag Newport 20 Jun 16 6.31pm Send a Private Message to leifandersonshair Add leifandersonshair as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Driving back on the A24 the other day between Dorking and Horsham I saw a large "Vote Leave" board which had been the subject of graffiti.Above "Vote Leave" were the words "Dont" and under was written "I can make my own mind up...." etc etc.Couldn't read it all as I was driving.On the whole I have witnessed a number of "Out" posters and only a couple of "Remain" ones.

It's very much dependant on the area. I live in central Bristol- loads of Remain posters in windows round here.

However, driving back to see my parents in Wiltshire, plenty of Leave posters, out in the rural areas.

Whatever happens, the demographics should make fascinating reading i.e. which cities/areas were mostly Remain, mostly Leave etc. Particularly in regards to the UK- could be a bit interesting if the Scots and Welsh vote overwhelmingly Remain, but end up outvoted by the English voting Leave. I suspect if Brexit happens, the Scots will ditch the UK and stay in the EU

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Jun 16 6.55pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

How long would that have taken bearing in mind too that our economy will have contracted after Brexit?

This country will go on for centuries, not 2/3 years of renegotiation whilst we're still in the EU for 2 years anyway. How many remainers will be p1ssed that they voted remain in a decade or two once they notice why they should've voted leave?

We keep hearing how migrants benefit the economy after any benefits claimed, but just how much money is sent back home or taken back home after wages have been saved?

 


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