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 Maine Eagle  USA 29 May 19 8.01pm |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
The actual figure we give the EU is £260m a week, Thatcher fought for a rebate which if she never achieved bumps the amount to around £350m however the figure does vary from year to year. Utterly pointless investigating Johnson for this, just as much as its pointless investigating remain mps who lied about the state the UK would be in if it voted to leave the EU. This is a very simplistic way to examine the cost/benefits of EU membership. You cannot really boil it down to simple in and out financials of this nature. We also enjoy many tariff and trade benefits as a member of the customs union and single market. There are benefits that are hard to quantify financially until we dont have them anymore. As we are yet to actually leave the EU, the true financial situation will not be known until the point at which that happens, and the ensuing years.
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| Stirlingsays 29 May 19 8.11pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
And if it ever gets found out Huawei are spying may should good go down for treason after being warned by her own secret service. Seconded.
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| .TUX. 29 May 19 8.28pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
This is a very simplistic way to examine the cost/benefits of EU membership. You cannot really boil it down to simple in and out financials of this nature. We also enjoy many tariff and trade benefits as a member of the customs union and single market. There are benefits that are hard to quantify financially until we dont have them anymore. As we are yet to actually leave the EU, the true financial situation will not be known until the point at which that happens, and the ensuing years. With all due respect, you don't understand the financial state of the EU yet you're happy to continually support it and claim that Brexiters are stupid/idiotic/uneducated/racist for wanting to leave? Cop-out bender.
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 May 19 8.54pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
With all due respect, you don't understand the financial state of the EU yet you're happy to continually support it and claim that Brexiters are stupid/idiotic/uneducated/racist for wanting to leave? Cop-out bender.
How do you know that exactly? Also go easy on the personal insults, you may have heard they are outlawed here.
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 29 May 19 9.23pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
How do you know that exactly? Also go easy on the personal insults, you may have heard they are outlawed here. No one likes a grass!!
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 May 19 9.30pm |
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap
No one likes a grass!! Thanks for giving me a genuine chuckle - second of the day after hearing Boris is going to court for his big red bus. Just one question for you. How is warning someone to not break the rules, being a grass? I think to grass I would have to hit the "alert a moderator to this post" button, wouldn't I.
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| .TUX. 29 May 19 9.47pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
How do you know that exactly? Also go easy on the personal insults, you may have heard they are outlawed here. You constantly make it obvious. Secondly, it's a HOL colloquialism. Another obvious fact that you seem to have missed. They're adding up
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 May 19 10.31pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Yes Wisbech Eagle but he wants a referendum on it first Correction. I see no advantages at all in us leaving. I prefer us to stay in and push hard for the reforms that are needed. I don't want a referendum on this, or anything else. I want Parliament to do it's job and if it cannot to resign and for us to elect another.
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| dannyboy1978 29 May 19 10.34pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Correction. I see no advantages at all in us leaving. I prefer us to stay in and push hard for the reforms that are needed. I don't want a referendum on this, or anything else. I want Parliament to do it's job and if it cannot to resign and for us to elect another. Do you honestly think Britain 1 of 27 can change anything. Cameron tried and failed which is why we are were we are
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 29 May 19 10.40pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Think you need a subscription to the FT to access that link, Becky. I think many farmers didn’t vote for a no deal exit, they voted for a managed exit. The head of the national farmers union is very clear on her grave concerns about the disaster of a no deal exit for the entire industry. Precisely. We need to leave, but we don't need to leave on no deal. Leaving on a managed deal is not 'not leaving'. That, is a fact. Customs Union comes closest to remaining, and for that reason I can't see that version happening. Will no doubt end up being some sort of frankensteined May deal, with an extension into 2020. The more I think about it the more I think a second ref is unlikely, or at least a one with no deal and deal as the only two options. Can't see the politicos putting the most feared option on the table to the plebs again. Too risky. And to those surprised at the continuing obfuscation – you can't say there is a corrupt political elite making decisions for themselves one minute then expect them to simply ratify something like this without a hitch the next. Naive at best. Makes me laugh - hating the system because it’s protecting its own interests then expecting the same system to implement something that goes against the grain. As long as we do leave, I can't see room for complaint. You can wish you had a harder, softer or no brexit at all, but the result of the vote will have been honoured. Choosing 'leave' did not mean 'no deal'. Considering the vote split had the option been 'Leave with no deal on WTO terms' Remain would probably have won. So every cloud. And that's that
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 May 19 10.53pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
You constantly make it obvious. Secondly, it's a HOL colloquialism. Another obvious fact that you seem to have missed. They're adding up Cop out bender is a HOL colloquialism? Hmmmmmm. Ok, well thanks for the heads up on that, TUX. Saying "you constantly make it obvious" is as compelling an argument as saying "leave means leave". It means nothing at all, and is not grounded in any kind of realism.
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| Spiderman Horsham 29 May 19 10.58pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
This is a very simplistic way to examine the cost/benefits of EU membership. You cannot really boil it down to simple in and out financials of this nature. We also enjoy many tariff and trade benefits as a member of the customs union and single market. There are benefits that are hard to quantify financially until we dont have them anymore. As we are yet to actually leave the EU, the true financial situation will not be known until the point at which that happens, and the ensuing years. So Carney and Hammond have lied then? They have assured us that we will be in financial meltdown....should we prosecute?
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