To reply to some of those risible BlueAnon points.

Alex Jones was outside the capitol building advising people not to enter the building....All that video is freely available.

I expect that Trump took some time to realise what was happening but that once he did then he gave that 'go home' message.

If Trump was trying to start an 'insurrection' then why didn't anyone who entered that building fire any bullets and actually take the building? Not one shot was fired by them....That is not the actions of a coordinated attempt to overthrow an election.

It's so stupid....As if taking one building would do that anyway....History shows you that overthrows are multiple attacks on communication/military and political infrastructure at once. Only ill educated dimwits really believe the fantasy stuff the Democrats put out.

The only person murdered was by capitol building security....someone who was whitewashed but should never be allowed a firearm again.

I agree with Trump....give them nothing. These are unethical people who proved their ill faith and corruption during your presidency.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2022 3.37pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The links I just posted in response are rather more informative.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Exactly right; by the way some congratulations are in order - you continue to post complete and utter sense which is such a huge contrast to much of what tends to be peddled on this site in the political arena.

I don't "push" conspiracy theories"

Then proceeds to push one.

Something is either an 'insurrection' or it isn't. It most definitely has been suggested that it was a planned 'insurrection'.....However what's suggested is so weak and fanciful that only a fool would think it could work.

As for the pressure on Pence to not ratify ....None of that is untrue....and perhaps that would extend to suspending congress I don't know. However once Pence's attitude was known that ended it...and Pence had come out with his intention before January 6th.....The martial law stuff is pie in the sky, that's a huge unrealistic leap....Qanon.

January 6th and a load of MAGA numpties travelling through the building makes no difference to anything.

To get from that to martial law is fanciful rubbish.

For Trump to get to martial law he would have to have had the support of the generals and he knew he didn't have it.

Personally I have little doubt that this particular line of enquiry had been considered...I said so at the time, however that was long gone by then.....all of today's generals are fully filtered and paid up members of the system.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2022 10.22pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

No-one was murdered during the riot. Unfortunately deaths occurred. One a rioter who lost her life when a security man opened fire when facing the mob. She shouldn't have been there. Whether he should have fired is a matter for debate but was arguably self-defence. It certainly wasn't murder. Policemen died later.

The video of this killing rips apart the idea that there is some doubt as to whether she should have been shot. Here in this video you get one scene of this murder at roughly 18 seconds in...it's hard to find on Youtube now as the leftists try to memory hole it.

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What we saw was the justice of the Democrats.....not actual justice.

She presented no threat. To justify her killing as a reasonable action would have justified shooting everyone who entered that building....it's indefensible in my view.

Also, it's unethical to imply that later deaths were a result of January 6th.

There is zero evidence for it and that suggestion is nothing more than BlueAnon.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2022 9.37pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Well, I support Trump being as difficult as possible.

That's precisely how the Democrats treated him so they don't deserve anything else. They have nothing but ill intent for thim and anyone who has read your posts on Trump knows that's your position as well.

In my view for the US system to stand any chance of coming together both parties probably need a near total clear out of leaderships and severe restrictions on lobbying and funding.....On that aspect I think Obama was right.

The days of consensus are way way in the past now and it's two different political languages.

But a clear out isn't going to happen so this is the path we travel down....So in keeping with the utter contemptuous behaviour of the Democrats during Trump's presidency I fully support him being as difficult as he wants.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2022 10.19pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)