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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 May 19 8.02am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

The sound bites of the tory mp's to become priminister is cring worthy.
Sajid javid
"We must bridge divides to heal communities, reminding us of our shared values as a United Kingdom, and we must strengthen our society and economy so that everyone can benefit from the opportunities which a prosperous nation provides."
Gove.
“I’m entering this contest because I want to put forward a positive set of ideas about how we can bring our country together. I believe I’m ready to unite this country and ready to unite the Conservative and Unionist party, and I’m looking forward to a contest of ideas.”

Unity blah blah, coming together, blah blah compromise blah blah.

Jeremy Hunt is ruling our a no deal Brexit bye bye Jeremy.


Normally I would be in favour of compromise but in the case of Brexit I really can't see that is possible. You cannot be a little bit pregnant.

I think the candidate that simply calls it will win with the Tory faithful. They're is no compromise so the Tories must deliver Brexit or face a decade in the wilderness the sooner they realise that the better. And yes that will upset many people in the UK but the nature of our elections is winner takes all.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 May 19 9.37am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Breaking news Chris Graying has announced his intention to stand:

"I have decided to throw my ring into the hat"

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 May 19 10.04am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

As I always believed that the EU election result would be meaningless in terms of any impact on Brexit I have stayed away from the instant analysis. I guess the only real benefit might be to those who try to analyse voting trends in the various regions.

I do though follow Louise Mensch on Twitter who is, among many other things, a committed Brexiteer. She posted this, which I thought sufficiently interesting to share here:-

"So it’s another woeful performance for @Nigel_Farage. Brexit Party IS UKIP, yet even with Tories in chaos he only picked up an extra 5 seats. Cons have 4, not none. Remain beat Brexit overall.

Forget the hot takes. That’s a very bad result for Farage under these circumstances."

From a Brexiteer I think that is quite insightful.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 May 19 10.09am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As I always believed that the EU election result would be meaningless in terms of any impact on Brexit I have stayed away from the instant analysis. I guess the only real benefit might be to those who try to analyse voting trends in the various regions.

I do though follow Louise Mensch on Twitter who is, among many other things, a committed Brexiteer. She posted this, which I thought sufficiently interesting to share here:-

"So it’s another woeful performance for @Nigel_Farage. Brexit Party IS UKIP, yet even with Tories in chaos he only picked up an extra 5 seats. Cons have 4, not none. Remain beat Brexit overall.

Forget the hot takes. That’s a very bad result for Farage under these circumstances."

From a Brexiteer I think that is quite insightful.

Utter cobblers.

Spin spin spin.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 May 19 11.06am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As I always believed that the EU election result would be meaningless in terms of any impact on Brexit I have stayed away from the instant analysis. I guess the only real benefit might be to those who try to analyse voting trends in the various regions.

I do though follow Louise Mensch on Twitter who is, among many other things, a committed Brexiteer. She posted this, which I thought sufficiently interesting to share here:-

"So it’s another woeful performance for @Nigel_Farage
. Brexit Party IS UKIP, yet even with Tories in chaos he only picked up an extra 5 seats. Cons have 4, not none. Remain beat Brexit overall.

Forget the hot takes. That’s a very bad result for Farage under these circumstances."

From a Brexiteer I think that is quite insightful.

And night is day.

A party that did not exist 6 weeks ago becomes the largest party after the election and one of the largest in the EU Parliament with 32% of the vote. Only 5 seats? Doesn't sound much but there are only about 70+ seats on offer and it's not a fair analogy as he left UKIP.

Change UK formed about the same time only got 600,000 votes and about 4% of the vote yet some people are saying for a new party they did OK.

If 32% of the vote is failure I bet Corbyn and the Tories would bite your hand off for that kind of failure.

 


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regpaddock Flag Suffolk 28 May 19 11.35am Send a Private Message to regpaddock Add regpaddock as a friend

Labour wiped out in Wales and Scotland. Now that really takes some doing

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 May 19 1.18pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Campbell expelled from the Labour Party. Everything bad in politics exudes from every pore from this war criminal.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 28 May 19 1.18pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

In my opinion mainstream politics in this country is finished. Time for a change and a total rethink on how our country is run. There is not one politician that I trust to do something they are told. Liars, cheats, scoundrels the lot of them. They have spent the last thirty years learning how not to answer a question and now they have taken it a step forward and quite simply make s*** up if it suits them to do so. Had enough of it frankly, maybe it's time to move abroad, (but I would miss visiting the mighty Palace then).

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 28 May 19 1.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Campbell expelled from the Labour Party. Everything bad in politics exudes from every pore from this war criminal.


Seems very harsh, petty and pretty silly from Labour.

However, it's very in-line with the new wave far left who have taken over the party.....getting rid of those dissenting voices one by one.

But this leadership is what the membership wanted so at least it isn't undemocratic.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2019 1.22pm)

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 28 May 19 1.26pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Seems very harsh, petty and pretty silly from Labour.

However, it's very in-line with the new wave far left who have taken over the party.....getting rid of those dissenting voices one by one.

But this leadership is what the membership wanted so at least it isn't undemocratic.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 May 2019 1.22pm)

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This from a party that calls the Brexit Party 'Right Wing' they have abandoned huge swathes of truly working class folk & mainly appeal to those Waitrose buying metropolitan types

 


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lefty27 Flag ipswich 28 May 19 1.45pm Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

I voted remain and tend to vote for a centre left party in a general election.
I don’t understand the delusion of people claiming the European results were a win for remain. It seems to me the liberals and the greens were beaten by the brexit party both in seats and share of the vote. Lumping labour in with those results just doesn’t work as many labour voters voted for brexit.
I can’t understand people who claim to have liberal views now want to disregard the result of a democratic referendum based purely on economic reasons. I think this whole situation reflects so badly on us as a democracy and would 100% vote the other way if we have another referendum.

 

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palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 28 May 19 2.13pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

In my opinion mainstream politics in this country is finished. Time for a change and a total rethink on how our country is run. There is not one politician that I trust to do something they are told. Liars, cheats, scoundrels the lot of them. They have spent the last thirty years learning how not to answer a question and now they have taken it a step forward and quite simply make s*** up if it suits them to do so. Had enough of it frankly, maybe it's time to move abroad, (but I would miss visiting the mighty Palace then).

Don’t worry, you can live abroad AND come back to watch Palace!
Although there were times last season when I wondered why I bothered...

 

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