It is important to approach the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with a balanced perspective, recognizing the complexities of the situation and the actions of all parties involved. While it is true that some posters may focus solely on Hamas and avoid criticizing Israel, it is equally important to acknowledge the actions of both sides.

Regarding Hamas, it is widely considered a terrorist organization by many countries and international bodies. Their actions, including the events on October 7th, can indeed be seen as provocative and reckless, leading to civilian casualties. It is unfortunate that they view their own people as collateral damage in a holy war.

However, Hamas is responsible for everything that has occurred, both on that specific day and subsequently.

The Israeli government also bears responsibility for its actions and responses.

Moving forward, it is vital for Hamas to engage in dialogue, recognize the concerns of the Palestinian people, and work towards a resolution that respects the rights and dignity of both Israelis and Palestinians.

Ultimately, a just and lasting peace in the region can only be achieved through negotiations, a willingness to compromise, and mutual respect between all parties involved.

However, Hamas has openly declared that ,it wants to eradicate Israel and all its Jews this is common knowledge.

It is for Hamas to surrender, as it is being defeated. like most civilized countries would do..

The onus is certainly not on Israel

Why there is no point negotiating with Hamas

Firstly, Hamas firmly believe that violence is the only way to achieve their objectives. They perceive negotiation as a weak or ineffective approach, believing that it will not result in the desired outcome. This mindset can be driven by a range of factors, such as a deep-seated mistrust of the government or a perception that peace negotiations will not address the root causes of their grievances.

Secondly, Hamas often seek to maintain power and influence through conflict. Another, reason Israel is not backing down to international pressure

They came to power or gained recognition by employing violent tactics, and therefore, may view peace negotiations as a threat to their status or even their existence. Ending the conflict could lead to their marginalization, as they may no longer be seen as relevant or necessary. This can be a significant deterrent to engaging in peaceful dialogue.

Moreover, negotiation may not align with the ideological or political objectives of Hamas, who have openly said they want to eradicate Israel and all the Jews Their core beliefs, values, and ideologies might are fundamentally opposed to any form of compromise or peaceful resolution. From their perspective, adhering to their cause means maintaining a perpetual state of conflict and resistance.

They believe that any concessions made through negotiation would compromise their principles or ideologies, making it impossible for them to agree to peace talks.

Lastly, it is also worth considering that Hamas is highly fragmented, with differing agendas and objectives even within the same organization. This internal diversity can further complicate negotiation processes, as consensus-building becomes challenging. While some factions may be open to peace talks, others may vehemently reject them, making it difficult for the group as a whole to agree on a unified stance.

In conclusion, the motivations behind Hamas's' rejection of peace negotiations are multi-faceted and context-dependent. While violence is often seen as the means to achieve their goals, other factors related to power dynamics, ideological rigidity, and internal divisions can contribute to their reluctance to engage in peaceful dialogue. Understanding these complexities is crucial in devising effective strategies to counter terrorism and promote peaceful resolutions to conflicts.

When you understand this. You understand that it's not up to Israel. it's up to Hamas to stop this conflict...

When most countries are under attack and there is no way of fighting back it's quite normal for that country to surrender...

In reality, such a simplistic view often leads to more harm than good, emphasizing the importance of finding more nuanced and constructive ways to address conflicts and injustices.

The problem with this is we know Hamas won’t. There is no point in calling for Hamas to stop. No one is legitimising terrorism. Just being realistic.

That though doesn’t absolve a supposedly responsible part of the western world from protecting the innocent caught in the middle.

There is, and has been, no suggestion that Israel should not protect itself. Only that the style of its response is both disproportionate and probably counter productive in the longer term. The accusation is not at Israel and its legitimate rights. It’s at Netanyahu, his personal needs and the attitudes of his own religious extremists. It was them which failed to protect their border from a well known threat. With the level of intelligence they have within Gaza this is inexcusable.

Hamas won’t stop, so they must be stopped. There are though ways to do that which avoid the crude destruction of Gaza and the deaths of so many non combatants.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Can you explain how calling for Israel to abide by international law is doing any of that?

- how does it legitimise Hamas or give them a platform and recognition?

- what concessions would it mean granting?

- what rule of law would it undermine, what legal processes would it circumvent and what criminal behaviour would it reward?

It is crucial for Israel to defend itself from terrorism, finding a long-term solution requires addressing the underlying issues that perpetuate violence.

It is understandable to express concerns about legitimizing Hamas and giving them a platform for their actions. However, it is also important to recognize that there are civilians in Palestine who are caught in the midst of this conflict and are suffering as a result. Protecting innocent lives should be a priority for all parties involved. Hamas, just don't care.

The call for Hamas to stop the conflict is valid, but it is also recognized that they are unlikely to do so willingly.

Therefore, efforts should be made to find alternative ways to address the situation and curb violence without causing disproportionate harm to civilians.

The criticism towards the actions of certain Israeli leaders, such as Prime Minister Netanyahu, is a separate issue and not an indictment of Israel's legitimate rights to self-defense. It is crucial to distinguish between criticizing specific actors and questioning broader policies and approaches.