This has always held true not just Trump. Eisenhower appoint Earl Warren because he believed him to be his guy once in office Warren became the darling of the Democrats and was key to the whole civil rights movement.

Supreme Court judges are appointed for life and almost impossible to remove this leaves them free to act on their conscience and free from political and electoral pressure unlike Congress.

Obama tried to get RBG to stand down due to ill health she refused and so Trump got to pick her replacement I think she was wrong but is proves they are independent.

One more point

The Trump "supporters" tried to present "evidence" on countless occasions but nothing was ever accepted. Courts, even those presided over by openly Republican Judges, threw it out.

The investigation into the events last January is ongoing. It's being obstructed by Trump insisting his communications at the time are still subjected to "executive privilege" and instructing his people not to co-operate. Some have already been charged with with abuse of Congress. So the wheels of justice are turning slowly.

I believe the evidence of my own eyes and ears. I saw Trump's speech and heard his claims. I saw the reaction to it. They were linked. Whether in a way that can plausibly be legally denied remains to be seen.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Trump told them to go home, hardly the words of an 'insurrectionist'.

Also, it can be noted that this claim appears in Democratic media all the time....in fact they don't refer to much else.

Yet I hear that none of those arrested appeared to have been persecuted under that crime......and I might add that holding people who committed no violence in solitary confinement is a disgusting abuse of power.

Politicised justice.

From what I can gather the real collusion that went on was between the media and activist groups...most powerfully social media, essentially the Democrats denied Trump fair public access. Silencing a president of whatever stripe in an election cycle should result in serious consequences....I think in the future that's going to happen.

Even more important were the rule changes that allowed mail voting to have far more prominence....that allows for political abuse upon large scales. Personally I think that happened...because there are just too many dishonest people in politics.

How large it was though is hard to say....it also has to be said that I imagine republicans also took advantage of it. It's not a safe system to operate under.

The problem for those that value truth over propaganda it that it's actually hard to know anything for sure. All you can do is dismiss the obvious nonsense....but what is left is still obscured...of course if you believe the propaganda it's far easier.

Both the left and right present narratives which omit and colour and the truth to be fair becomes a tradable commodity that few...in today's age, are interested in actually caring about above winning for their political tribe.

As a state of affairs it's not a good portent for the future.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2022 11.44am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Your usual moronic pomposity, and , the Congress calls it an impeachment trial so that is a fact on which you are wrong, no surprise there.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Trump only told them to "go home" very late in the day, having told them many other things earlier. Why he did so, and what, or who, triggered his change of heart, is important to find out. Which is why full access to the White House communications on that day is so important and why Trump's attempts to hide them so suspicious.

What I gather is there was indeed collusion between people like Bannon and social media sites like Infowars. Alex Jones was present. The "Democrats" did not deny Trump anything. That's propaganda. Some private social media platforms removed him, after due warning, for spreading misinformation. That is their right and, I believe, also their duty. Other platforms did not. He also was able to address the people directly, and via interviews. So his freedom of speech was not impaired at all.

Providing facilities for voting safely in the middle of a pandemic is simple common sense. To try to curtail that, when your objective is to ensure that you benefit because it was anticipated that more Democrats would use mail votes than Republicans, is where the corruption lies.

Where I agree is that the whole system is no longer fit for purpose and needs a root and branch overhaul.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I nearly choked on my Bagel. It was Trump (for all his faults) who got the vaccine up & running in record time, Biden actually praised him last week on it.
As for the economy? Don't make me laugh. Distribution issues as well as prices going through the ceiling even on basic items like petrol, milk, bread & even the bag of salt I bought from Home Depot yesterday for the incoming snow & Ice doubled in price from 7 to 14 bucks.
Add on the debacle at the southern border which is totally out of control, so bad in fact that the Biden administration have brought back in some of the restrictions Trump introduced & the Democrats condemned.

Pro USA & Israel