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 Stirlingsays  27 May 19 9.45am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I am so mad I have just complained to the BBC I expect they will have a BS response but it's really disgusting. I think you can argue that The Brexit party, UKIP and Change UK are pretty much Brexit related parties. I would imagine supporters of all other parties would argue they have other policies and are a more broad based church. So I don't see how you can argue that the Tories and Labour should be not be included in the numbers whilst counting the Lib Dems and the Greens etc. I am spitting feather. I admire your energy levels. I gave up going through the process of complaining to the BBC about six months ago. Looking at their coverage, especially the website you could end up doing little else all day. The fact that they are on the public purse when their stance on Brexit has been laid bare is incriminating. I just try to limit my interactions with the BBC down to a minimal now and wait for the day when their unjust tax is made an optional one instead of one that's deliberately difficult to avoid.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 27 May 19 9.46am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I disagree as I think that most leavers would have voted for Brexit Party as a lesson to Parliament as to what we want with Remainers voting Lib Dem or Green in desperation to try and get another referendum Yes I’d halve the labour vote and give each side half. It’s still a pre Brexit result, by far.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 27 May 19 9.48am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
My thoughts, some votes are still to be counted. Labour and especially the Tories were crushed. At the last GE they got 80% of the vote between them this time it looks like around 24%. Brexit party just 6 weeks old swept all before. The politicians had better pay attention. Lib Dems gobbled up the Remain vote. The Greens have done well again. UKIP collapsed. As I have said previously we don't vote for extremists in this country so all the nonsense about the rise of the far right* is just that. Change UK. Who? They're slogan should be we want Change by remaining the same. No surprise they failed I think the voters saw them for what they were a bunch of bitter losers from both parties. So what now. Tories, worst election ever. If I was a Tory MP on a small majority and wanting to save my job I would be thinking warm and fuzzy thoughts about Boris. None of the other candidates have brand recognition I am not sure he would be a good PM but for the Tories this is about damage limitation. Labour. Last night Emily Thornberry said "the results show we need a second referendum". Really Emily is that what you take from this? Lord Adonis at least had the good sense to refuse to speak to the media. My guess is that for once Corbyn is actually right I think a GE may happen before the year is out with a new Tory leader and possibly a new Labour leader.
She says that while her poor bstard husband Rogers her in the dark.
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Park Road  27 May 19 9.48am |
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In plain English... who's the winner by a majority of more votes than anyone else?
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 May 19 9.50am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
This is a classic from the BBC straight out of the Stalin book for accountancy. 1.Anti Brexit 40.4 (Lib Dems, Green, SNP, Change UK Plaid) So the Anti Brexit parties have it. Hang on why are the Tories and Labour not included? If they are excluded because they are more than just about Brexit well then that also applied to the Lib Dems. Green, SNP etc. If you are going to tally up the parties you have to include Labour and Tory as Brexit which is their official policy. By that logic, we must send our commiserations to Man City because, if you add up all the points gained by all the other clubs competing in the league, they actually finished bottom.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 27 May 19 9.54am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I admire your energy levels. I gave up going through the process of complaining to the BBC about six months ago. Looking at their coverage, especially the website you could end up doing little else all day. The fact that they are on the public purse when their stance on Brexit has been laid bare is incriminating. I just try to limit my interactions with the BBC down to a minimal now and wait for the day when their unjust tax is made an optional one instead of one that's deliberately difficult to avoid. I don't normally complain but this morning so many people throwing fake numbers around. It's one thing for people on this board including myself to extrapolate what we think happened but broadcasters need to be more responsible than us. The BBC would have been better off not even trying to show that graph as Tom said these numbers are fantasy. Just because someone voted Green or SNP doesn't mean they are Remainers and vice versa. Anyway rant over I'm off for a walk around Highgate and possibly Kenwood house.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 27 May 19 9.54am |
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Labour ARE NOT REMAIN. They’re confused and here and there.
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| Matov 27 May 19 9.55am |
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The Brexit Party won it. As simple as that. And by a fair old margin. Clearly the Lib/Green + silly hangers on can be presented as a 'Remain' vote but let us not forget that they had the chance to co-operate before these elections to campaign on a single issue Remain ticket and chose not to. I get why the Remain Retards are clinging on to this fantasy but it lacks genuine credibility. Throw in the lower turn out in Leave areas compared to those of Remain, a situation that would change if there was another re-run of June 23rd and it all starts to present a different picture. Single biggest issue now is how the Labour Party play it. I get why they will be under pressure to come down in favour of another referendum (and you could argue that McDonnel did that this morning) but I suspect Corbyn will still want to try and walk the tight-rope for a bit longer. I am in danger of boring even myself about this point now but what truly matters for Labour is the Constituency break down of this vote and the reality is that this is still heavily skewed in favour of Leave. For anybody who takes this stuff far more seriously than they should then the results from the NE and the West Midlands are the ones worthy of serious study as they tell Labour that coming out fully in favour of a second referendum, let alone revoke, pose serious problems if they want to win a majority. The Tory dilemma is much easier to comprehend. Anything else other than a meaningful Brexit by October and the Brexit party stand against them and decimates their vote. Probably makes it all much simpler for them. And yes, the Libs did well but still only pulled in 20% of the national vote and based on a low turn out. Not a good look in terms of the bigger picture.
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| becky over the moon 27 May 19 10.02am |
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A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers |
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 May 19 10.19am |
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All that paid is Matt Le Blanc's lunch bill.
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jeeagles  27 May 19 10.29am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
This is a classic from the BBC straight out of the Stalin book for accountancy. 1.Anti Brexit 40.4 (Lib Dems, Green, SNP, Change UK Plaid) So the Anti Brexit parties have it. Hang on why are the Tories and Labour not included? If they are excluded because they are more than just about Brexit well then that also applied to the Lib Dems. Green, SNP etc. If you are going to tally up the parties you have to include Labour and Tory as Brexit which is their official policy. As expected a tightly run race between leave and remain but remain is split. I think many of the Tory’s are now pretty much a leave party. I still can’t work out what Labour are, but many of their Welsh and Northern voters would only vote labour despite voting to leave. Scotland yet to declare last I heard. Likely to be SNP for remain. The countries still decided so who knows what the outcome of a second referendum will be. I don’t think it’s a good idea as it will just split the country more. Would be more interesting to work out what’s happening across the rest of Europe. Reports are saying that Pro EU parties have a reduced majority.
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| Park Road 27 May 19 10.34am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
And leavers from anywhere and everywhere voted brexit party. Agree, but initial data shows a cumulative win for remain parties here.
In a late change on how English football is won. Arsenal, Tottenham, and Chelsea's results have been added up and now LONDON are the official premier League winners Edited by Park Road (27 May 2019 10.35am)
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