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 MonsterMunch  Cambridge 27 Jan 21 8.45pm |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
When I said "some" was on a par with Mr Dodgson, I meant some of it. It doesn't mean I agree with any of it. That is merely your assumption. Individual performances are not influenced by a manager. How can any manager make Townsend's passing accuracy better? Only the player himself can improve that. None of that is the manager's fault. Fans go into meltdown after a loss. As simple as that. Back in the day it was a punch-up. Now it's a meltdown on social media. My response is calm, I admit, as I have followed Palace for quite a while. This is nothing new to me. I'm sorry that you feel my attitude is not one which the pant wetters understand, but that is because you lack rationality. Passion I have in abundance. I just lack your "entitlement". I certainly don’t agree a manager/and or coaches cannot improve a players ability. What I is most certainly the managers fault is continually select a player if they are continually under performing. That’s pretty standard practice in any management level. Consistent underperformance must be addressed. There’s no accountability demanded from Hodgson. I can only assume keeping possession or even being able to pass to each other is not practiced on the training field.
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| slubglurge welling 27 Jan 21 8.55pm |
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In order to be an accurate passing team you need players showing for the ball. Our players are like statues when we have the ball, their movement is zero and thats the main we give away possession so much
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| Elphers40 Sunny South Coast 27 Jan 21 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by Arthur Waite
I have read recent comments and picking up on a few: There is no joy or excitement with Palace at the moment- there hasn't been for some considerable time. However, we know the outcome! Who's fault?
Guaita has literally saved us many, many times, but he seems to have lost all confidence. Butland needs to be brought in now. Mitchell and Clyne in the main, have done well. I understand why Kouyate played defence earlier in season, BUT he is not a defender- he needs to go. For us to score we need to create chances. Townsend is at the end. Why is he playing? Eze is a star in the making. Please play him in his right position. Why is he stuck out on the left?? Zaha is NOT an out and out striker. Please play him appropriately. We have nothing to lose (apart from Prem status!), so please play Mateta against Wolves. We NEED something different, but we need to create the chances. Roy OUT- We need a different manager to ignite and save our season before it is too late. Supporting Palace used to be fun- this is torture!
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| MonsterMunch Cambridge 27 Jan 21 9.04pm |
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Originally posted by slubglurge
In order to be an accurate passing team you need players showing for the ball. Our players are like statues when we have the ball, their movement is zero and thats the main we give away possession so much Which is baffling. This is the managers and coaches role
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| TheBigToePunt 27 Jan 21 9.12pm |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I don't agree that the anti football Roy plays would be the same no matter who was in charge... Maybe it's my rose tinted glasses but I can't ever recall the way we play being anywhere near as bad as this under Pulis and Sam... It was every bit as bad. It's just that neither of them stuck around long enough for anyone to get bored of them.
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| keithl norwich 27 Jan 21 9.34pm |
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Seeing Benteke make no effort to get to a beautiful Eze cross suggests we have at least 1 player not bothered about playing for the club or manager.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 27 Jan 21 9.37pm |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
An interesting post, but I think it is much simpler than that. I don't think anyone is expecting us to be in the top 3, or vying for Europe at the moment. What it is, is the gutless, couldn't give a toss, negative performances that are a direct result of this current manager's tactical approach. I'm not advocating all out gung-ho attack, but would just like to see a motivated team looking like it knows what it's doing with a few leader type figures on the pitch. Edited by southnorwoodhill (27 Jan 2021 7.51pm)
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| BlackBallsEagle Maidstone 27 Jan 21 9.41pm |
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Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews
Growth , have a word with yourself you mug! Ohhh, someones had some spinage with their Turkey dinosaurs......!!!
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| BlackBallsEagle Maidstone 27 Jan 21 9.49pm |
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Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews
You would have Sam over Roy all day long, you are kidding me. Do you remember how Sam left, you were good with that were you... I’ve heard it all now.... Oh someones a little needy tonight, all over me like my ex girlfriend!! Listen little league, go try pick a little mans syndrome fight with someone else. BIG Drrrrip And once again.....All day everyday, had more guts, fight and determination with a lesser team. And SPINE, something that you seem to possess behind your username ;-) Sleep Well
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 27 Jan 21 9.51pm |
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Originally posted by MonsterMunch
I certainly don’t agree a manager/and or coaches cannot improve a players ability. What I is most certainly the managers fault is continually select a player if they are continually under performing. That’s pretty standard practice in any management level. Consistent underperformance must be addressed. There’s no accountability demanded from Hodgson. I can only assume keeping possession or even being able to pass to each other is not practiced on the training field. You may not agree, but you are wrong to disagree. Encouragement is all a manager can give when a player is over a certain age, as development is beyond the player's capability. If Townsend was 20, he could be improved. But now, he will never increase his speed. He will become less accurate as he ages. As for selecting players, who replaces Townsend? Your assumption of practice on the training field really reveals your limited knowledge of football.
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| A1969Eagle Redhill 27 Jan 21 10.16pm |
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Hevent you forgotten.... Midway through 2nd half the match last night, Wilf is so frustrated hes kicking the ball directly at their players... Originally posted by slubglurge
In order to be an accurate passing team you need players showing for the ball. Our players are like statues when we have the ball, their movement is zero and thats the main we give away possession so much
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| Eaglecoops CR3 27 Jan 21 10.28pm |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
When I said "some" was on a par with Mr Dodgson, I meant some of it. It doesn't mean I agree with any of it. That is merely your assumption. Individual performances are not influenced by a manager. How can any manager make Townsend's passing accuracy better? Only the player himself can improve that. None of that is the manager's fault. Fans go into meltdown after a loss. As simple as that. Back in the day it was a punch-up. Now it's a meltdown on social media. My response is calm, I admit, as I have followed Palace for quite a while. This is nothing new to me. I'm sorry that you feel my attitude is not one which the pant wetters understand, but that is because you lack rationality. Passion I have in abundance. I just lack your "entitlement". What entitlement? You think it’s fun to insult as many palace fans as you can under the pretence that you know best which having read your posts give me no confidence of your knowledge whatsoever in that respect. Of course managers are responsible for individual performances. It’s called man management, understanding form and team selection. If Townsend wasn’t on the pitch to start with then he wouldn’t have been able to give the ball away 22 times. Whose decision was that? He has been shocking recently but our manager just does the same thing with the same players every week hoping for a different result. I really don’t get what you are trying to prove by your failure to acknowledge any fault of the manager for anything. It is not pant wetting which is a vile insult anyway and one you should have grown out of using yourself.
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