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daven Flag Hailsham 29 Sep 18 6.06am Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

Right here goes an idea,
The club start working on this NOW.
Every season ticket holder in the lower tier gets sent a simple letter asking if they want to be part of the singing section.
The club will then know how many seats to allocate for the singing section. This section will be formed from the middle outwards with the HF in the middle of it.
The remaining season ticket holders would be given the chance to select their seats on length of support with certain deadlines. This would mean that nobody would be moved from the centre of the stand to the corners and also nobody would feel victimised because long term supporters would be given first choice.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 29 Sep 18 7.01am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BarEagle

As a moderator, that is a terrible post. Apart from it being contradictory.

What absolute drivel.

I am a member of this forum primarily and am as entitled to voice my opinions on any Palace related subject as anyone else whether you like it or not

 

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Lombardos barber Flag 29 Sep 18 7.19am Send a Private Message to Lombardos barber Add Lombardos barber as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It has nothing to do with wanting Selhurst to have a good atmosphere. It's about the price to be paid for it

The price to be paid for it?

The absolute horror of telling people (who do not own their seats) they will have to move to another seat (that they will also not own).

And only the best part of a year to come to terms with their tragic loss.

It's mental.

 

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OhthisbloodyPC Flag 29 Sep 18 7.35am

Nicely put

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

The price to be paid for it?

The absolute horror of telling people (who do not own their seats) they will have to move to another seat (that they will also not own).

And only the best part of a year to come to terms with their tragic loss.

It's mental.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 29 Sep 18 8.07am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

The price to be paid for it?

The absolute horror of telling people (who do not own their seats) they will have to move to another seat (that they will also not own).

And only the best part of a year to come to terms with their tragic loss.

It's mental.

Yes but they may not be able to whisper to the 20th acquaintance or 3rd cousin 20 seats down or 3 rows and 7 seats away. Imagine if the whole ground was set up like that forever. Bye bye atmosphere for good.

 


COYP

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Midlands Eagle Flag 29 Sep 18 8.36am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardos barber

The price to be paid for it?

The absolute horror of telling people (who do not own their seats) they will have to move to another seat (that they will also not own).

And only the best part of a year to come to terms with their tragic loss.

It's mental.

I'm guessing that you're not one of the ones affected which makes it fairly easy for you to put down those who are

 

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becky Flag over the moon 29 Sep 18 8.39am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by daven

Right here goes an idea,
The club start working on this NOW.
Every season ticket holder in the lower tier gets sent a simple letter asking if they want to be part of the singing section.
The club will then know how many seats to allocate for the singing section. This section will be formed from the middle outwards with the HF in the middle of it.
The remaining season ticket holders would be given the chance to select their seats on length of support with certain deadlines. This would mean that nobody would be moved from the centre of the stand to the corners and also nobody would feel victimised because long term supporters would be given first choice.

No they won't! All they will know is how many currently in the seats under discussion want to remain.

They would then need to establish IF the HF are coming back and how many seats they need now, and they have not (as far as I am aware)responded so far to the club's statement. That would give them the number of central core seas.

Now comes the difficult part - they either have to ask people to indicate NOW if they want to move there so that they know how many others want to be in a singing section and can accommodate them accordingly when the move takes place or they will just have to decide how big the singing section will be and limit tickets sold for that area.

Of course, having done all that, and allocated any remaining seats to those ejected from their usual places, you then are left potentially with the same problem the following year if the singing section takes off and needs to expand again - or if it all falls flat and you have empty seats behind the goal (and this is a possibility if the horror that is relegation happens!)

So, maybe not quite as simple as it would seem.

 


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dorking Flag 29 Sep 18 8.40am Send a Private Message to dorking Add dorking as a friend

Originally posted by daven

Right here goes an idea,
The club start working on this NOW.
Every season ticket holder in the lower tier gets sent a simple letter asking if they want to be part of the singing section.
The club will then know how many seats to allocate for the singing section. This section will be formed from the middle outwards with the HF in the middle of it.
The remaining season ticket holders would be given the chance to select their seats on length of support with certain deadlines. This would mean that nobody would be moved from the centre of the stand to the corners and also nobody would feel victimised because long term supporters would be given first choice.


Some people will just say yes so they cam move from the corners to the centre.

When the club allocate spaces in any singing section or eventual safe standing section, they might be wise to take into account where the fan currently resides - for example if they come from B block it is more likely they already stand and sing than if they are currently in H block sitting down all game

The above sounds terribly arbitrary, just shows what an impossible job the club have trying to do the whole thing fairly

 

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spartakev2 Flag Anerley 29 Sep 18 8.47am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by dorking


Some people will just say yes so they cam move from the corners to the centre.

When the club allocate spaces in any singing section or eventual safe standing section, they might be wise to take into account where the fan currently resides - for example if they come from B block it is more likely they already stand and sing than if they are currently in H block sitting down all game

The above sounds terribly arbitrary, just shows what an impossible job the club have trying to do the whole thing fairly


This. I'll be interested to see how the club deal with this. How many seats they allocate for the singing section and how they decide who gets those seats. Judging by this thread there are going to he a lot more people who want to join the singing section than seats available. Or are they just going to give them all to the HF and let them decide....

 

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laddo Flag london 29 Sep 18 8.51am Send a Private Message to laddo Add laddo as a friend

What seems lost in all this is the future selhurst atmosphere. Not only will we have a lovely new main stand we will have an atmosphere that is the best in England. Other clubs have tried to mimic ours but they don't come close.

The fanatics are a big reason for this but it also rubs off on others. Let's embrace change now.

 


laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
David Brent.

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OhthisbloodyPC Flag 29 Sep 18 9.21am

Does anyone here actually know any Fanatics?

I don't.

I'm told they used to drink in the Port Manor, in Norwood Junction.

But that got closed down by the crack Met Police Special Optimism Destruction Unit (SOD-U) which takes the closing of avenues of pleasure 'very seriously'.

I must admit I admire their spirit, even if they are a bit excessive at times. (That's youth for you)

Palace's atmosphere building team needs to be a blend of youth and experience. (Bert Head said something similar)

To sanitise something Ron Noades once said, we need the hard singers (regardless of which box they tick on diversity survey forms) to get us through the bleak winter games.

Anyway, the main question is: who knows a Holmesdale Fanatic?

What are they like?

Edited by OhthisbloodyPC (29 Sep 2018 9.22am)

Edited by OhthisbloodyPC (29 Sep 2018 9.25am)

 

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PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 29 Sep 18 9.45am Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BarEagle

PZ do you agree that generally the HF help increase the positive atmosphere? Yes or No? Very simple question - yes or no?

Anyone would think that the atmosphere at Palace was a recent thing. I have been in crowds at Selhurst of 36,000 v Peterborough, 38000 v Millwall, 40,000 v Man Utd and 51,000 v Burnley and there was great atmosphere then.

I am not against a decent atmosphere but I have consistently argued that the HF were WRONG to throw their teddies out of the pram and now cause a lot of loyal fans to be moved. Also I don't accept for one moment that with the HF and a good atmosphere that it translates into wins on the pitch or that we might get relegated without them.

 


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