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Mapletree Croydon 14 Oct 17 11.09pm
Well, my take on this. Speroni is actually more of a leader as an individual. His positional sense is good. He is still a decent keeper. Wayne is taller and sometimes better in the area but isn’t totally reliable and seems to lack confidence. Our benchmarks are Bill Glazier, John Jackson and Nigel Martin. Neither of our current keepers is anywhere near. BG is a good poster elsewhere but a man on a mission here. Probably time to let it go.
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Croydon 14 Oct 17 11.09pm

Well, my take on this. Speroni is actually more of a leader as an individual. His positional sense is good. He is still a decent keeper.

Wayne is taller and sometimes better in the area but isn’t totally reliable and seems to lack confidence.

Our benchmarks are Bill Glazier, John Jackson and Nigel Martin. Neither of our current keepers is anywhere near.

BG is a good poster elsewhere but a man on a mission here. Probably time to let it go.

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Shifty97 Croydon 15 Oct 17 12.39am
Originally posted by braunstoneagle pleased youve finally admitted your wrong. as you admitted the error of your ways, can you explain why youve been spouting rubbish for months about a solid performer, and with that brought myself & other posters down to your level? Solid Performer???? Mate if he was a solid performer, there would not be a thread with more than 2100 posts on him.
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Croydon 15 Oct 17 12.39am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

pleased youve finally admitted your wrong.

as you admitted the error of your ways, can you explain why youve been spouting rubbish for months about a solid performer, and with that brought myself & other posters down to your level?

Solid Performer???? Mate if he was a solid performer, there would not be a thread with more than 2100 posts on him.

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chateauferret 15 Oct 17 12.47am
Originally posted by Shifty97 Solid Performer???? Mate if he was a solid performer, there would not be a thread with more than 2100 posts on him. By that logic there ought to be a Puncheon thread twice that size. ============ The Ferret ============
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15 Oct 17 12.47am

Originally posted by Shifty97

Solid Performer???? Mate if he was a solid performer, there would not be a thread with more than 2100 posts on him.

By that logic there ought to be a Puncheon thread twice that size.

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EagleEssex Essex 15 Oct 17 12.56am
Apologies to repeat what I said on the Speroni thread but it has relevance to this discussion also.. It was great to see the Palace legend that is Speroni in goal today, and he did a sterling job to come in to the side and do the business. Its a shame that I have to add anything else to that, as I think Speroni did great today and I really dont want to criticise him, but my hand is forced by the anti-Hennesites, who on a great day for our Club today seem to be exploiting what should be a happy day to further their anti-Hennesey agenda. I can only imagine the reaction of Brentmiester general et al if Hennessey had let in the goal that Speroni did today. There were a couple of fumbles later on that would also have been lambasted by the afore-mentioned posters. However, as I said, I think Speroni played great today, He was, is, and will always be a Palace Legend, and we are incredibly lucky to rely upon him as our number two. Did he do anything to warrant him regaining the number one jersey from Wayne? I dont think so. Do I think he can do a great job for us if Hennessey's injury persists - Wholeheartedly, yes But those who claim that the renewed confidence in the side was due to Speroni being in the goal have clearly overlooked Zaha's return... Although, for sure, Speroni, being a Palace legend, did provide the crowd with a lift. But lets not forget Roy has just had two weeks to work with the team and implement his tactics which clearly has been effective today. All in all - a great day.
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Essex 15 Oct 17 12.56am

Apologies to repeat what I said on the Speroni thread but it has relevance to this discussion also..

It was great to see the Palace legend that is Speroni in goal today, and he did a sterling job to come in to the side and do the business.

Its a shame that I have to add anything else to that, as I think Speroni did great today and I really dont want to criticise him, but my hand is forced by the anti-Hennesites, who on a great day for our Club today seem to be exploiting what should be a happy day to further their anti-Hennesey agenda.

I can only imagine the reaction of Brentmiester general et al if Hennessey had let in the goal that Speroni did today. There were a couple of fumbles later on that would also have been lambasted by the afore-mentioned posters.
However, as I said, I think Speroni played great today, He was, is, and will always be a Palace Legend, and we are incredibly lucky to rely upon him as our number two.
Did he do anything to warrant him regaining the number one jersey from Wayne? I dont think so.
Do I think he can do a great job for us if Hennessey's injury persists - Wholeheartedly, yes

But those who claim that the renewed confidence in the side was due to Speroni being in the goal have clearly overlooked Zaha's return...
Although, for sure, Speroni, being a Palace legend, did provide the crowd with a lift.
But lets not forget Roy has just had two weeks to work with the team and implement his tactics which clearly has been effective today.
All in all - a great day.

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cpj Kent 15 Oct 17 12.57am
Originally posted by robdave2k Ok, Here's two other quotes from you on this thread Blooming hec! Mata and Lukaku unmarked a few yards out and that's Hennessey's fault? Yes, he let one in last night - I think you'll find that all keepers let in an occasional goal, even with a good defence in front of him. So it's a free header against Man U, WH gets defended. Free header against Chelsea and Speroni should have saved it. Whether you like it or not, the crowd got a lift with Jules in goal, which probably contributed to the atmosphere. My main issue with WH is with all the attributes he has he should be much, much better than he is. On paper he is light years ahead of Jules, but I trust JS even at 38 more than I do WH. So ask yourself why a sizeable chunk of fans don't rate WH. And I'd suggest it's because there is no sign of comittment, willingness to put himself in harms way. Palace fans take players who are committed to their affection and like it or not JS lifts the place when he appears. Are you stalking me? Fellaini's free-header was from a couple of yards. Today's was from 12 yards and he was just too slow moving across. Other than that, a few regulation saves. If that had been WH, people wouldn't be enthusing on here like they are. Apparently every goal WH concedes is his fault, but Speroni is only beaten by perfect headers/shots/worldies. I concede JS is by far more popular with fans - mainly because many grew up with him in the Championship when he was very good.
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Kent 15 Oct 17 12.57am

Originally posted by robdave2k

Ok,

Here's two other quotes from you on this thread

Blooming hec! Mata and Lukaku unmarked a few yards out and that's Hennessey's fault?

Yes, he let one in last night - I think you'll find that all keepers let in an occasional goal, even with a good defence in front of him.

So it's a free header against Man U, WH gets defended. Free header against Chelsea and Speroni should have saved it.
Whether you like it or not, the crowd got a lift with Jules in goal, which probably contributed to the atmosphere.

My main issue with WH is with all the attributes he has he should be much, much better than he is. On paper he is light years ahead of Jules, but I trust JS even at 38 more than I do WH.

So ask yourself why a sizeable chunk of fans don't rate WH. And I'd suggest it's because there is no sign of comittment, willingness to put himself in harms way. Palace fans take players who are committed
to their affection and like it or not JS lifts the place when he appears.

Are you stalking me?

Fellaini's free-header was from a couple of yards. Today's was from 12 yards and he was just too slow moving across. Other than that, a few regulation saves. If that had been WH, people wouldn't be enthusing on here like they are. Apparently every goal WH concedes is his fault, but Speroni is only beaten by perfect headers/shots/worldies. I concede JS is by far more popular with fans - mainly because many grew up with him in the Championship when he was very good.

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EagleEssex Essex 15 Oct 17 1.06am
Originally posted by cpj Are you stalking me? Fellaini's free-header was from a couple of yards. Today's was from 12 yards and he was just too slow moving across. Other than that, a few regulation saves. If that had been WH, people wouldn't be enthusing on here like they are. Apparently every goal WH concedes is his fault, but Speroni is only beaten by perfect headers/shots/worldies. I concede JS is by far more popular with fans - mainly because many grew up with him in the Championship when he was very good. Agree with the above.
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Essex 15 Oct 17 1.06am

Originally posted by cpj

Are you stalking me?

Agree with the above.

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michaelpearce grays 15 Oct 17 6.35am
Originally posted by cpj Are you stalking me? Fellaini's free-header was from a couple of yards. Today's was from 12 yards and he was just too slow moving across. Other than that, a few regulation saves. If that had been WH, people wouldn't be enthusing on here like they are. Apparently every goal WH concedes is his fault, but Speroni is only beaten by perfect headers/shots/worldies. I concede JS is by far more popular with fans - mainly because many grew up with him in the Championship when he was very good. are sure yes Jules makes mistake like the rest of them, to say he was only good in the championship shows how little you watch football more important Palace, the only reason Jules didnt play in goal more often last couple of season because he had a hand injury before season 15/16, he played 72 games in the prem before injury, so do your homework and stop being blinked by your condoning remarks, as i said before both keepers are close but I still think Jules gives more confidence to the defence
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grays 15 Oct 17 6.35am

Originally posted by cpj

Are you stalking me?

are sure yes Jules makes mistake like the rest of them, to say he was only good in the championship shows how little you watch football more important Palace, the only reason Jules didnt play in goal more often last couple of season because he had a hand injury before season 15/16, he played 72 games in the prem before injury, so do your homework and stop being blinked by your condoning remarks, as i said before both keepers are close but I still think Jules gives more confidence to the defence

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Goldfiinger Just down the road 15 Oct 17 6.43am
Neither of them are world beaters and its kinda pathetic to argue one is better than the other as on there day there both as good and as poor as the other. That said, the defense IMO don't trust WH and melt on many occasions. Maybe thats WH fault maybe not. But surely after the adulation the players showed to JS at the final whistle, and the fact he didn't really make any mistakes. Then surely he gets another game? And I'd say the same thing if it was the other way round and we'd lost 7 game with JS in goal and WH played the one we won. Sorry but all this we'll maybe Benteke doesn't get back in to the side either then is bolloxs. Anyway luckily Roy will decide, as I have a feeling he's wiser than some on here. Edited by Goldfiinger (15 Oct 2017 6.45am)
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Just down the road 15 Oct 17 6.43am

Neither of them are world beaters and its kinda pathetic to argue one is better than the other as on there day there both as good and as poor as the other.

That said, the defense IMO don't trust WH and melt on many occasions. Maybe thats WH fault maybe not. But surely after the adulation the players showed to JS at the final whistle, and the fact he didn't really make any mistakes. Then surely he gets another game?

And I'd say the same thing if it was the other way round and we'd lost 7 game with JS in goal and WH played the one we won.

Sorry but all this we'll maybe Benteke doesn't get back in to the side either then is bolloxs.

Anyway luckily Roy will decide, as I have a feeling he's wiser than some on here.

Edited by Goldfiinger (15 Oct 2017 6.45am)

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 15 Oct 17 8.26am
Originally posted by Goldfiinger Neither of them are world beaters and its kinda pathetic to argue one is better than the other as on there day there both as good and as poor as the other. That said, the defense IMO don't trust WH and melt on many occasions. Maybe thats WH fault maybe not. But surely after the adulation the players showed to JS at the final whistle, and the fact he didn't really make any mistakes. Then surely he gets another game? And I'd say the same thing if it was the other way round and we'd lost 7 game with JS in goal and WH played the one we won. Sorry but all this we'll maybe Benteke doesn't get back in to the side either then is bolloxs. Anyway luckily Roy will decide, as I have a feeling he's wiser than some on here. Edited by Goldfiinger (15 Oct 2017 6.45am) Most of what he posts is utter bolocks. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Front line in the battle against t... 15 Oct 17 8.26am

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Neither of them are world beaters and its kinda pathetic to argue one is better than the other as on there day there both as good and as poor as the other.

And I'd say the same thing if it was the other way round and we'd lost 7 game with JS in goal and WH played the one we won.

Sorry but all this we'll maybe Benteke doesn't get back in to the side either then is bolloxs.

Anyway luckily Roy will decide, as I have a feeling he's wiser than some on here.

Edited by Goldfiinger (15 Oct 2017 6.45am)

Most of what he posts is utter bolocks.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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robdave2k 15 Oct 17 9.32am
Originally posted by cpj Are you stalking me? Fellaini's free-header was from a couple of yards. Today's was from 12 yards and he was just too slow moving across. Other than that, a few regulation saves. If that had been WH, people wouldn't be enthusing on here like they are. Apparently every goal WH concedes is his fault, but Speroni is only beaten by perfect headers/shots/worldies. I concede JS is by far more popular with fans - mainly because many grew up with him in the Championship when he was very good. Yes I'm clearly stalking you. It was 8 yards out and in the corner of the net. And if that was WH and people were enthusing, says all you need to know about the quality of WH wouldn't you say? The point you still seem to be missing is WH on paper is a much better player than he is in reality.
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15 Oct 17 9.32am

Originally posted by cpj

Are you stalking me?

Yes I'm clearly stalking you.

It was 8 yards out and in the corner of the net.

And if that was WH and people were enthusing, says all you need to know about the quality of WH wouldn't you say?

The point you still seem to be missing is WH on paper is a much better player than he is in reality.

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 15 Oct 17 9.34am
Originally posted by robdave2k Yes I'm clearly stalking you. It was 8 yards out and in the corner of the net. And if that was WH and people were enthusing, says all you need to know about the quality of WH wouldn't you say? The point you still seem to be missing is WH on paper is a much better player than he is in reality. He's an enigma in every sense. Edited by Brentmiester_General (15 Oct 2017 9.35am) "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Brentmiester_General

Front line in the battle against t... 15 Oct 17 9.34am

Originally posted by robdave2k

Yes I'm clearly stalking you.

It was 8 yards out and in the corner of the net.

And if that was WH and people were enthusing, says all you need to know about the quality of WH wouldn't you say?

The point you still seem to be missing is WH on paper is a much better player than he is in reality.

He's an enigma in every sense.

Edited by Brentmiester_General (15 Oct 2017 9.35am)

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 Oct 17 9.35am
Originally posted by EagleEssex Apologies to repeat what I said on the Speroni thread but it has relevance to this discussion also.. It was great to see the Palace legend that is Speroni in goal today, and he did a sterling job to come in to the side and do the business. Its a shame that I have to add anything else to that, as I think Speroni did great today and I really dont want to criticise him, but my hand is forced by the anti-Hennesites, who on a great day for our Club today seem to be exploiting what should be a happy day to further their anti-Hennesey agenda. I can only imagine the reaction of Brentmiester general et al if Hennessey had let in the goal that Speroni did today. There were a couple of fumbles later on that would also have been lambasted by the afore-mentioned posters. However, as I said, I think Speroni played great today, He was, is, and will always be a Palace Legend, and we are incredibly lucky to rely upon him as our number two. Did he do anything to warrant him regaining the number one jersey from Wayne? I dont think so. Do I think he can do a great job for us if Hennessey's injury persists - Wholeheartedly, yes But those who claim that the renewed confidence in the side was due to Speroni being in the goal have clearly overlooked Zaha's return... Although, for sure, Speroni, being a Palace legend, did provide the crowd with a lift. But lets not forget Roy has just had two weeks to work with the team and implement his tactics which clearly has been effective today. All in all - a great day. I totally agree with all you say. The lads did a fantastic job today ALL of them. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 Oct 17 9.35am

Originally posted by EagleEssex

Apologies to repeat what I said on the Speroni thread but it has relevance to this discussion also..

It was great to see the Palace legend that is Speroni in goal today, and he did a sterling job to come in to the side and do the business.

I totally agree with all you say. The lads did a fantastic job today ALL of them.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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