JUDAS PRIEST What other industry has such a long holiday (apart from school teachers)

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True but if Parliament pass a vote of no confidence, which I think is pretty certain if the deadline approaches without a deal agreed, and no one else can form a government, which also seems pretty certain then an election will have to take place whether the PM calls it or not.

I would then expect the outgoing Parliament to revoke Article 50 so that the new Parliament can make their own decision.

That seems to me the most likely scenario for the coming months.

It will not surprise me to begin to soon begin to hear whispers of regret that Mrs May's/EU deal wasn't accepted.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

For once I tend to agree with you, although whether it will have to completely break up first or undergo internal reform is an open question.

30 years ago my daughter did her dissertation on the tensions caused by the effects of a "two speed Europe". As I was working at the time for a German company these were also being discussed there. The effects were well understood but the desire to keep everyone under the same umbrella meant they were considered secondary.

My own hope is that the reform route is taken and that some kind of overarching pan-European organisation continues to link everyone.

I would like the UK to be driving that reform rather than turning it's back on it because we can then help to shape it and not have to accept what others decide. So even if our future EU membership has to be especially tailored to fit us I would rather we stayed inside than outside with a "deal".

Maybe we will move towards that in the next 2 years with us revoking Article 50, calling a GE and electing a Parliament with no outright winner which demands compromise to move forward.

With the EU negotiating team also changing and disaffection growing in various countries perhaps the opportunity for a fresh approach may arrive sooner than later.

I really hope so and that the divisiveness of the past years can be put behind us as we endeavour to build a safe future for those who follow us.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Here's the twitter link for my post

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Those MPs who voted for May led us to this.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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If that's true I take back any commentary I made on it: It needs further investigation.

The truth is far more important than any tribal political advantage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 May 2019 12.02pm)