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 Stirlingsays  05 Sep 23 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
That's fair enough. I have also heard people being arrested over it from first hand accounts. I do remember seeing people being fined on the tube not wearing one. I was asked myself to wear one and a simple "I am exempt" without any hassle was fine and I went about my day. Or sometimes I had those lanyards I bought from Amazon to wear just closed my eyes and let them pass. Ridiculous that I and many others had go through. I'd better stop before the PTSD from it all comes back. Because it really was phycological warfare at the time. Yep, it was totally nuts. I wore them shopping at the large Tescos we have because the missus didn't want any fuss. Horrible things that impeded my breathing and god knows what little bits were in them. When family came round I just said come round with the knowledge that we don't wear them. My missus's old man is in his eighties and was kept at a distance, which was appropriate.....if you were vulnerable some precautions were worth a go....even if ultimately it was unlikely to make a difference long term and the social isolation harmful in other ways. We live in a time where no one can seem to accept that airborne viruses can't be stopped outside of really quite expensive industrial equipment, which is quite impractical day to day. You live, you die....get busy living or get busy dying. Worry about it when something like the Spanish flu turns up.....not a one percenter.....but know thanks to these clowns we won't have the money available to actually fight that one.
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 05 Sep 23 8.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Make me feel better? You think I regret not taking those vaccines? Mmmm....perhaps you're the one who needs the validation, I'm as fit as a fiddle. You seem to have spent a lot of time here essentially trying to debunk the main point but you haven't really. All you're showing is that they make a statement up to a point. Your belief systems based on studies you think are true is something I've already answered. That's fine but from where I'm standing you're the one desperate to prove that what you supported was valid. Whereas I regard what was done as a massive over reaction that generations now have to pay for both in death and taxes. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2023 5.27pm) Nice attempt at a segue. It’s all there both in my points and that study - it’s not debunking, you’re arguing at crossed purposes against my original point - which I then pointed out. Having the strongest immunity possible after natural infection and then vaccination is validation enough for me. I’d rather be at the opposite end of the risk profile. As for overreaction - as I’ve already stated hindsight is wonderful but I do just about agree that it appears sequential lockdowns were a bad idea, however it is impossible to state with any certainty that an alternate approach would have been any different. The big test is the response to the next one - learn and don’t make the same mistakes twice.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 05 Sep 23 8.03pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
That's fair enough. I have also heard people being arrested over it from first hand accounts. I do remember seeing people being fined on the tube not wearing one. I was asked myself to wear one and a simple "I am exempt" without any hassle was fine and I went about my day. Or sometimes I had those lanyards I bought from Amazon to wear just closed my eyes and let them pass. Ridiculous that I and many others had go through. I'd better stop before the PTSD from it all comes back. Because it really was phycological warfare at the time. Oh come on. PTSD? Hyperbolic nonsense
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 8.12pm |
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The idea that wearing masks is daft because they cannot stop airborne viruses has emerged again as a reason for them not to have been worn during the pandemic. They were never intended to stop airborne viruses!!!! They were intended to reduce the load of virus by capturing sneezes and coughs. Less heavy load equals less severe infections, which the immune system has a better chance of fighting and the NHS was less likely to be required. They were just one part of an overall strategy to try to keep infections as low as possible until the vaccines were available. A strategy we were obligated, as a community working together, to play our role in. Those who failed to do so, without good reason, whatever their personal reservations have my total contempt for their selfishness. Yes people were arrested but generally only after gentle persuasion had failed. If you ignore a legal requirement then you face consequences whether you agree with the requirements or not. Spanish flu hit when there was no possibility of a vaccine and the way society operated was very different. I am currently in Israel and the level of mask wearing, on the streets, here remains well above what we see at home.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 8.19pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
We also don't know for how many years the damaging effects will be felt, both in terms of the societal damage and the hundreds of billions spent which could have been put to better use. We don’t but we wouldn’t whatever strategy had been adopted. It’s the assumption that another strategy would have resulted in a better outcome that’s the error. Not that the outcome is unpredictable.
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| eaglesdare 05 Sep 23 8.19pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Oh come on. PTSD? Hyperbolic nonsense Yes as I said it was phycological warfare at the time.
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| eaglesdare 05 Sep 23 8.22pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep, it was totally nuts. I wore them shopping at the large Tescos we have because the missus didn't want any fuss. Horrible things that impeded my breathing and god knows what little bits were in them. When family came round I just said come round with the knowledge that we don't wear them. My missus's old man is in his eighties and was kept at a distance, which was appropriate.....if you were vulnerable some precautions were worth a go....even if ultimately it was unlikely to make a difference long term and the social isolation harmful in other ways. We live in a time where no one can seem to accept that airborne viruses can't be stopped outside of really quite expensive industrial equipment, which is quite impractical day to day. You live, you die....get busy living or get busy dying. Worry about it when something like the Spanish flu turns up.....not a one percenter.....but know thanks to these clowns we won't have the money available to actually fight that one. After the last couple of years I do have serious doubts over how bad that was.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 05 Sep 23 8.23pm |
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Jeez is this bulls*** still dragging on
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 9.56pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Yes as I said it was phycological warfare at the time. Do you believe being required to obey any law you disagree with is “phycological warfare”.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 05 Sep 23 9.59pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Yes as I said it was phycological warfare at the time. I think you're either a bit soft or absolutely love hyperbole. Maybe both
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 05 Sep 23 10.00pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
After the last couple of years I do have serious doubts over how bad that was. Christ alive
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Sep 23 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
After the last couple of years I do have serious doubts over how bad that was.
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