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 serial thriller  The Promised Land 01 Nov 18 7.09pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Despite being "a youth mentor in Tower Hamlets" you offer no insight to the topic or come up with any solutions to what you say is an "issue". Instead you would rather smear posters on this forum. Nice one! Desperation and power breed vice. I see it every day, with the kids I work with and the environment they're in. What we as a civilised society have to aspire to is checking power and limiting desperation. But in the past 40 years we have done the exact opposite, by allowing more inequality and less transparency in to our society. I know kids who have been abused, and obviously I can't disclose too much, but I will say that the dominant feature of the abusers is not their race or religion but their gender. Patriarchy is a disease, which at the depths of our society turns in to something none of us would wish to see. The fact that the same people decrying rapists and abusers are championing chauvinism is to my mind callous hypocrisy.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 01 Nov 18 7.17pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Desperation and power breed vice. I see it every day, with the kids I work with and the environment they're in. What we as a civilised society have to aspire to is checking power and limiting desperation. But in the past 40 years we have done the exact opposite, by allowing more inequality and less transparency in to our society. I know kids who have been abused, and obviously I can't disclose too much, but I will say that the dominant feature of the abusers is not their race or religion but their gender. Patriarchy is a disease, which at the depths of our society turns in to something none of us would wish to see. The fact that the same people decrying rapists and abusers are championing chauvinism is to my mind callous hypocrisy. So the fact that most abusers are male is a big deal to you? In what universe is that not likely to be the case ? Sounds to me that, once again, you will try any feeble swerve to avoid the obvious truth. You clearly have an issue with selective acceptance of statistical facts.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 01 Nov 18 7.43pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Desperation and power breed vice. I see it every day, with the kids I work with and the environment they're in. What we as a civilised society have to aspire to is checking power and limiting desperation. But in the past 40 years we have done the exact opposite, by allowing more inequality and less transparency in to our society. I know kids who have been abused, and obviously I can't disclose too much, but I will say that the dominant feature of the abusers is not their race or religion but their gender. Patriarchy is a disease, which at the depths of our society turns in to something none of us would wish to see. The fact that the same people decrying rapists and abusers are championing chauvinism is to my mind callous hypocrisy. What's your solution? Tear down capitalism?
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 01 Nov 18 7.58pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
I do get my balls busted and bent over and stuffed by the corporate sausage daily And then I go to work. I really cannot imagine you wanting it any other way.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Nov 18 9.41pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
I really cannot imagine you wanting it any other way.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Nov 18 9.56pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Desperation and power breed vice. I see it every day, with the kids I work with and the environment they're in. What we as a civilised society have to aspire to is checking power and limiting desperation. But in the past 40 years we have done the exact opposite, by allowing more inequality and less transparency in to our society. I know kids who have been abused, and obviously I can't disclose too much, but I will say that the dominant feature of the abusers is not their race or religion but their gender. Patriarchy is a disease, which at the depths of our society turns in to something none of us would wish to see. The fact that the same people decrying rapists and abusers are championing chauvinism is to my mind callous hypocrisy.
This is not to say that the same drives that enables men to produce much good in the world doesn't also create destruction and abuse.....Until the day of worldwide 'designer' babies you are going to get men who are biologically dysfunctional.....and even then you will get damaged people from dysfunctional upbringings. However, unlike you I don't senselessly rage again human nature. People who think they can artificially change societies by telling lies to young men about how they should feel about how nature made them are no different to those who told homosexuals that they were from the devil. You cannot force a change in nature, you can only contain it.
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| Mapletree Croydon 01 Nov 18 10.02pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This is not to say that the same drives that enables men to produce much good in the world doesn't also create destruction and abuse.....Until the day of worldwide 'designer' babies you are going to get men who are biologically dysfunctional.....and even then you will get damaged people from dysfunctional upbringings. However, unlike you I don't senselessly rage again human nature. People who think they can artificially change societies by telling lies to young men about how they should feel about how nature made them are no different to those who told homosexuals that they were from the devil. You cannot force a change in nature, you can only contain it. What a load of old fluff Tell me what is human nature. Unfortunately I have only ever seen it through the lens of society. Aren’t you the one accusing pakistani society of being incompatible with the rest of the UK? Or perhaps I am confused. Being Muslim must affect at a genetic level.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Nov 18 10.23pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
What a load of old fluff Tell me what is human nature. Unfortunately I have only ever seen it through the lens of society.
Originally posted by Mapletree
Aren’t you the one accusing pakistani society of being incompatible with the rest of the UK? Or perhaps I am confused. Being Muslim must affect at a genetic level. I would have expected more from you Maple, but obviously you aren't really thinking very deeply about this. The drives that exist within all of us are given expression through the cultural pathways within the societies you grow up in. That is going to look different from within every culture....even if the base behaviour is the same. For example rape.....Due to biology this is always going to be a majority male crime, though its levels are affected by the culture the male grows up within. Some cultures will have higher percentages of rape than others for example...but they all will contain rape and due to nature it will never disappear...it can only be contained...This should be blindingly obvious. As for race affecting behaviour at the global level. There is some support for this but it's very controversial and many biological scientists simply don't wish to suffer the same career outcomes that Charles Murray has suffered. Whatever the extent to the truth of those claims....which in my view are far more nuanced than people are willing to present....The reality is that whatever a person's genetics, they deserve the same treatment within society. My attitude towards this changes however when it comes to culture and allegiance. Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Nov 2018 10.29pm)
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 01 Nov 18 10.52pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
What's your solution? Tear down capitalism?
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 01 Nov 18 11.40pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Thought so
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| dannyboy1978 02 Nov 18 7.50am |
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Just suppose it was found out there were multiple white grooming gangs targeting black kids. How would this be reported? I think the black community would be pretty annoyed! And more reactionary similar to how the Grenfell panned out.
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| DanH SW2 02 Nov 18 8.54am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This is not to say that the same drives that enables men to produce much good in the world doesn't also create destruction and abuse.....Until the day of worldwide 'designer' babies you are going to get men who are biologically dysfunctional.....and even then you will get damaged people from dysfunctional upbringings. However, unlike you I don't senselessly rage again human nature. People who think they can artificially change societies by telling lies to young men about how they should feel about how nature made them are no different to those who told homosexuals that they were from the devil. You cannot force a change in nature, you can only contain it. You need to put Jordan Peterson down for a little bit.
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