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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 May 19 4.56pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave When asked about the new stand, this guy said 'work had not begun' but the club had 'built a virtual reality model'.
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bexleydave  Barnehurst 27 May 19 5.13pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by est1905
Me too, it would be the funniest turn of events at the club yet!
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MikeCrete  Crete 28 May 19 4.54pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by est1905
Me too, it would be the funniest turn of events at the club yet! They will.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 May 19 5.41pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by Lombardos barber
You don't need permission to do what Wolves are doing. It is safe standing by proxy and a great move. Similarly it is perfectly legal to allow your fans to stand at matches, as Palace do. Different rules at different grounds, presumably in consultation with local authorities. The ground regulations of a club (including the ban on persistent standing) form a contract between the supporter and the club. Entering the stadium is a tacit agreement to accept the ground regulations. There are of course safety concerns about supporters standing in seated areas and of course as has been well documented on HOL the focus of my ire concerns supporters standing and obscuring the view of those who have paid hard earned money for their seat and wish to sit and view the game. Edited by Willo (28 May 2019 5.48pm)
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| Palace in the Blood 28 May 19 11.12pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by Willo
The ground regulations of a club (including the ban on persistent standing) form a contract between the supporter and the club. Entering the stadium is a tacit agreement to accept the ground regulations. There are of course safety concerns about supporters standing in seated areas and of course as has been well documented on HOL the focus of my ire concerns supporters standing and obscuring the view of those who have paid hard earned money for their seat and wish to sit and view the game. Edited by Willo (28 May 2019 5.48pm) If all the requirements with respect to football matches were just civil then you would be right. But your not otherwise the criminal prosecutions over Hillsborough could not have taken place. Look at requirements on connivance and neglect under HASWA and the changes to corporate manslaughter as a result primarily of the Herald of Free Enterprise. These are criminal charges. In short the act of allowing people to persistently stand can be used as proof that safety of people present at the event has not been adequately safeguarded
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| dreamwaverider London 29 May 19 7.13am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by Palace in the Blood
If all the requirements with respect to football matches were just civil then you would be right. But your not otherwise the criminal prosecutions over Hillsborough could not have taken place. Look at requirements on connivance and neglect under HASWA and the changes to corporate manslaughter as a result primarily of the Herald of Free Enterprise. These are criminal charges. In short the act of allowing people to persistently stand can be used as proof that safety of people present at the event has not been adequately safeguarded What a bunch of snowflakes this country has become.
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| PA Bedfordshire 29 May 19 7.29am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Is the new stand ever going to happen. It’s looking less and less likely with every day of silence. It’ll be a travesty when we eventually go back down with nothing to show for our fortunes in the PL except memories (good and bad ) and some wealthy players and owners.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 May 19 8.01am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by Palace in the Blood
If all the requirements with respect to football matches were just civil then you would be right. But your not otherwise the criminal prosecutions over Hillsborough could not have taken place. Look at requirements on connivance and neglect under HASWA and the changes to corporate manslaughter as a result primarily of the Herald of Free Enterprise. These are criminal charges. In short the act of allowing people to persistently stand can be used as proof that safety of people present at the event has not been adequately safeguarded With respect, the issue of Hillsborough goes beyond what I asserted in relation to standing in seated areas.My focus was on the latter and I was not suggesting that all incidents at football stadia are a matter of civil rather than criminal law.
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| Gary St.Andrews Kenley 02 Jun 19 12.01pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by bexleydave
The silence is deafening on this front, our American owners might have something to say on this matter?
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 02 Jun 19 12.47pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews
The silence is deafening on this front, our American owners might have something to say on this matter?
The club has lost not inconsiderable, sums in the 2017/18 accounting period and may well have lost even more in 2018/19. Their promise of £50m towards the new stand is probably starting to look like small potatoes compared to how much it will cost to keep us solvent. At present I'd say the only way anything is going to get built is if we make some big money on sales and reduce the wages bill. That presupposes, of course, that we can replace sold players without spending all of the monies received and their wages are less. Unless the US can/do sell their shares to a more benevolent owner(s), with cash, who see infrastructure investment as a long-term benefit and aren't looking for a quick profit; unfortunately the world is somewhat thin on Tony Bloom's
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kenbarr  Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 02 Jun 19 1.14pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Financial considerations aside, building a new Stand is Capital Construction while player wages and transfer fees are Operation Expense. These are two separate budgets that are not co-mingled. I would think the new stand will be financed by a type of mortgage to some degree. Let’s look at the experience of AFC Wimbledon, Charlton Athletic & Brighton & Hove Albion. Two built or are building new, one rebuilt existing. All three have been subjected to a lengthy planning process that was stalled several times by outside factors. IMHO what is needed now is patience & vigilance. I suspect there may be pressure groups lying in the weeds for us that will demand their pound of flesh. Ain’t politics grand!?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 02 Jun 19 1.43pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Stadium plans' by bexleydave Originally posted by kenbarr
Financial considerations aside, building a new Stand is Capital Construction while player wages and transfer fees are Operation Expense. These are two separate budgets that are not co-mingled. I would think the new stand will be financed by a type of mortgage to some degree. Let’s look at the experience of AFC Wimbledon, Charlton Athletic & Brighton & Hove Albion. Two built or are building new, one rebuilt existing. All three have been subjected to a lengthy planning process that was stalled several times by outside factors. IMHO what is needed now is patience & vigilance. I suspect there may be pressure groups lying in the weeds for us that will demand their pound of flesh. Ain’t politics grand!? I have the same feeling step forward TFL and the Mayor of London. Did you know his dad drove a bus? (Sarcastic tone).
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