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dannyboy1978 Flag 09 Jun 21 6.08pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Are you surprised when black schoolkids do very badly? How do we expect to get the next generation of business leaders and professional people.

We have to address the poor educational performance if we can do this the rest will fall into place. I don't believe FTSE companies are being racist but the pool of black talent is limited, we need to broaden and deepen that pool.

Have you seen Whitgift, it's mainly Asian and black kids , your point?

 

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dannyboy1978 Flag 09 Jun 21 6.12pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I regularly observe people under-estimating those from ethnic minorities.

When given a level playing field they do well. I just put the first Director onto our Exec from an ethnic minority group. Without my efforts there is almost zero chance that would happen. He needed coaching, support and someone to merchandise him inside the organisation. When he got it he blossomed.

Wouldn't you do that to anyone? Or just because of their ethnicity, sounds racist to me.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Jun 21 6.53pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Because people always under-estimated him, IMO due to his African roots. I had a huge blow-up with the CEO and forced her to realise what was happening.

They keep doing the same with one of our Care Home managers because she has a strong African accent. She is incredibly clever.

Edited by Mapletree (09 Jun 2021 4.58pm)

good for her.

and by the same token, we have all worked with pale eejits who talk like Prince Charles and are barely capable of making a cup of tea.


Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 Jun 2021 6.54pm)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Jun 21 7.33pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Have you seen Whitgift, it's mainly Asian and black kids , your point?

I thought my point was quite clear.

It's no good complaining that black people are discriminated against for the top job if they don't have the qualifications in the first place.

This all starts with education, Mapletree says that the numbers of blacks going to Uni has increased ergo in 20 years time there should be a big talent pool.

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 09 Jun 21 7.42pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I thought my point was quite clear.

It's no good complaining that black people are discriminated against for the top job if they don't have the qualifications in the first place.

This all starts with education, Mapletree says that the numbers of blacks going to Uni has increased ergo in 20 years time there should be a big talent pool.

If they haven't got the qualifications now then why are people moaning there isn't enough black people in director positions.


 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Jun 21 9.22pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

If they haven't got the qualifications now then why are people moaning there isn't enough black people in director positions.


Exactly my point.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 09 Jun 21 9.46pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Exactly my point.

It is a fair point, but women have more often than not outperformed men academically, and that isn’t reflected in the make up of leadership positions in business.

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 09 Jun 21 9.50pm

Originally posted by DanH

It is a fair point, but women have more often than not outperformed men academically, and that isn’t reflected in the make up of leadership positions in business.

What point are you trying to make here Dan?

That only white, hetro men discriminate?

 


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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 09 Jun 21 9.56pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Good interview with Simon Jordan who talks about BLM and politics in sport. [Link]

 

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DanH Flag SW2 09 Jun 21 10.03pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

What point are you trying to make here Dan?

That only white, hetro men discriminate?

Nope, not in the slightest. That it’s heavily weighted in that direction not through merit alone.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jun 21 10.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

It is a fair point, but women have more often than not outperformed men academically, and that isn’t reflected in the make up of leadership positions in business.

If the latter bothers you why doesn't the former?

 


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DanH Flag SW2 09 Jun 21 10.15pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If the latter bothers you why doesn't the former?

That women out perform men academically?

 

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