Stop using the word undeliverable. It is deliverable with no deal for example. This is about obstruction.

You are wrong, if you dont mind me pointing out.

People did not vote exclusively for a no deal exit, though some did.

People did not vote exclusively for May's deal (as it didnt exist), though some voted for some kind of managed exit along the lines of a withdrawal agreement/deal.

People did not vote exclusively for Norway plus, though some did.

Therefore delivering one of those options, is not democratic, Hrolf.

You cannot play the "uphold the democracy" card on one hand when it suits you, then completely sack of the concept of democracy on the other hand.

The way in which we leave the EU has massive, fundamental and far reaching consequences. No deal compared to May's deal is very different indeed.

To democratically deliver one of those exit routes, it must be voted on in a 2nd referendum.

Given the amount of lies, mistruths, lack of understanding and simple inability to predict the future in 2016, any reasonable person would also concede the very concept of leaving the EU must be voted on again, if you are going to the trouble of arranging a second national vote.

If your position is solid, we will vote again to leave the EU.

As you hold democracy in such high regard, if the will of the British people has changed, as they have seen the 350 mil for the NHS was a lie, and they have seen job losses and uncertainty, and they have seen what is happening with British Steel, then democratic process must rule and a new vote must be held.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

More claptrap.

I'm sure there are Remainers who would like to alter some aspects of EU membership but leaned toward the safer option.

You cannot rerun a vote just because it is in the nature of remaining that everything stays the same and that Leave has options.

Do give up. Your arguments are all self serving and nothing more.
We had a vote and a binary choice was the only fair option.
The fact that Parliament has conspired to ignore it does not mean that we can just keep having votes till you and they get result you wanted.
Another vote would just trigger another load of lies and propaganda from both sides, so the idea of being better informed is just another losers excuse.

Missing the point spectacularly, once again.

This isn't about rerunning, changing, altering, doing things over or anything of the sort.

It is to provide a mechanism to resolve the brexit fiasco one way or the other. Currently we are at a total impasse. There is no viable way out of this except a second referendum.

If we are leaving, or staying in, best thing to do now is get the f*** on with it and get it over with.

IMHO a second vote on HOW TO LEAVE the EU (totally missed on the 2016 vote) and whether or not the population of the country still even want to do that, is the best way to achieve a resolution.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

I am not giving excuses to have a 2nd vote.

I am suggesting a 2nd vote is the only way to resolve this one way or the other. Those are not the same thing, Hrolf.

As you say above, parliament could go with a no deal, or a proper brexit deal.

This is precisely the issue here. There is no democratic foundation between picking one or the other of those 2 options! It was not voted on.

It should be voted on.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

I suggest that you read my replies in the other thread, rather than seek another diversion here.

I get the feeling that you are so set in your ways that new thoughts cannot ever enter your mind.

As your hero might say. Sad!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.