It is now, but when we were in the EU, EU law had precedence over UK law.

Regulations applied automatically whilst Directives needed local legislation. They are just the way various decisions were implemented. None could have applied unless the UK government had taken the decision that they should, by signing the Treaties in the first place.

We joined the club and accepted the club's rules. You don't think the club is worth belonging to, even if it provides a safe space, comfort, a shared sense of purpose, common standards and strengthened negotiation abilities. You would rather keep the membership fee in your pocket and sit outside in the cold, happy in the knowledge that because that's your decision the cold and the duplicated effort doesn't matter. Others disagree with you.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

EU citizens should have the power to sack and appoint the EU commission via direct elections, as they would if they lived in a democracy.

Now we are where we are I'm keen to go in whatever direction ends up being more beneficial to us as a country. i.e. follow the best path to success, whatever that may be, not make arbitrary decisions based on ideology. If Brexit is that path, then so be it – it would be hard to argue against prosperity and being 'better off' than our EU cousins.

However, equally, we might not end up being in a better place, and in that scenario I get the feeling it would be hard for some on here to stomach / follow observable fact and evidence and ditch an almost religious adherence to ideology.

So to answer your first question, I wouldn't need to cut off my nose in that scenario anyway because I'm not wedded to either one of the 'democracy at all costs' vs 'EU at all costs' ideology debate. I'm just going to evolve my viewpoint as the situation develops. Y'know, logic.

Being open to change ones opinion depending on leaning, experience and observable reality and evidence rather than blindly sticking to a pre-determined ideology is pretty important in my view. One approach leads to success, the other, demise.

On measurement – an unscientific, yet simple way of doing so would be to see how we're performing against other comparable countries still in the EU in a few years time. If we're doing better than them financially, socially, developmentally... that would be a pretty good sign we made the right choice by leaving.

If you were to look at it more scientifically it would be complex but not impossible to research and produce a measured conclusion.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Plenty here I’ll send you some. Fing Brexit playing havoc with the weather, who’d have thought it

That would never happen to an EU member.

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