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XKudu The Midlands, England 06 Jun 24 9.41am | |
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Eze seems to shine in a more attacking role where he can work his magic inside an attack minded left sided wing-back. Who do we have on the left for England who could fulfill that Mitchell type role? Edit. I assume Luke Shaw but he’s doubtful fitness wise. Edited by XKudu (06 Jun 2024 9.44am)
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Jun 24 9.43am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
I think that if it's just two strikers Toney will get in ahead of Watkins. Watkins has done nothing when he's played for England and Toney is strong at penalties. Toney's penalty prowess surely has to be a consideration. My personal opinion is that they are both fantastic players. Watkins seems to have the England curse however of not translating his club form to the Int'l stage and Toney has been out for a considerable amount of time and only ever played in the PL for Brentford. His seemingly unfazed demeanour, particularly from the spot, would swing it for me.
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XKudu The Midlands, England 06 Jun 24 9.47am | |
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I think Toney shaves it over Watkins. He has that international swagger and confidence whereas I think the occasion may get to Watkins more. …and as mentioned above there’s penalties.
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 06 Jun 24 9.51am | |
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I would pick Toney over Watkins also, but it is hard too second guess Southgate.
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taylors lovechild 06 Jun 24 9.54am | |
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Personally, I think Kane is the only international quality striker of the three, so let's just hope he stays fit. If it's between Toney and Watkins I'd take the former because he just looks a bit meaner and tougher and less likely to get bullied.
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mileend East London 06 Jun 24 10.24am | |
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Curtis Jones and Jarell Quansah also reported on the bbc as being omitted from the squad So Southgate only has four more to let go including a keeper
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YT Oxford 06 Jun 24 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by XKudu
I think Toney shaves it over Watkins. He has that international swagger and confidence whereas I think the occasion may get to Watkins more. …and as mentioned above there’s penalties. England players don't have swagger and confidence. It's drilled out of them.
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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Jun 24 10.40am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
I think that if it's just two strikers Toney will get in ahead of Watkins. Watkins has done nothing when he's played for England and Toney is strong at penalties. Watkins doesn't fit the England approach, but he could be useful when games are stretched. I think our chances depend on Kane staying fit and the defence getting sorted. It will look better with Walker and Shaw, if they can get him fit. Otherwise, the left back position is a bit dodgy.
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 06 Jun 24 10.47am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Watkins doesn't fit the England approach, but he could be useful when games are stretched. I think our chances depend on Kane staying fit and the defence getting sorted. It will look better with Walker and Shaw, if they can get him fit. Otherwise, the left back position is a bit dodgy.
Watkins was anonymous on Monday when they parked the bus but I had the feeling that if Kane had been playing he would have dropped deeper and tried to involve himself in the play more whereas Watkins seemed content to just stay on the line where the defenders kept him quiet. Toney has been in poor form but if I had to rely on one of them to produce a moment of inspiration against a tight defence, I think I'd still pick him. Like you say though, a lot rests on Kane staying fit.
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mileend East London 06 Jun 24 11.05am | |
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Assuming Guehi is in, somewhat fortunately, I can't see Southgate taking all four of these: Jarrad Branthwaite (Everton), Lewis Dunk (Brighton), Joe Gomez (Liverpool), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa) As the defenders ahead of them are: Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), John Stones (Manchester City), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle), Kyle Walker (Manchester City)
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dreamwaverider London 06 Jun 24 11.25am | |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
Personally, I think Kane is the only international quality striker of the three, so let's just hope he stays fit. If it's between Toney and Watkins I'd take the former because he just looks a bit meaner and tougher and less likely to get bullied.
Edited by dreamwaverider (06 Jun 2024 11.30am)
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CrazyBadger Ware 06 Jun 24 11.29am | |
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Originally posted by mileend
Assuming Guehi is in, somewhat fortunately, I can't see Southgate taking all four of these: Jarrad Branthwaite (Everton), Lewis Dunk (Brighton), Joe Gomez (Liverpool), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa) As the defenders ahead of them are: Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), John Stones (Manchester City), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle), Kyle Walker (Manchester City) Man, that's a depressing bunch Of defenders!
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