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palace99 New Mills 07 Nov 23 11.45am | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
you started your post with 'Palace entertain me' - not sure how i've taken that out of context. Your Brentford comment is pointless - they finished well above us last season and are also above us now, despite a limited budget and the loss of their best 2 players. This season we probably have the best GK, CB and CM 5 we have ever had (all internationals and proven PL performers) so i don't think it's too much to expect them to try and play some football and not time waste from minute 1. This season with the 3 coming up being so weak relegation is less of a concern. Surely now is the time to play 'progressive' football - it worked quite well the last 10 games of last season. If we set up against Everton for 0.0 (as we've done v Forest and Fulham) and lose 1.0 to a deflected goal or similar, i suspect you will be the first to moan.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Nov 23 11.48am | |
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Originally posted by monkey
Really? I think he’s pretty much spot on, apart from the Luton part, but in our current situation injury wise and after a couple of defeats I don’t see it as a criticism of Roy, it’s what he does best and why SP brought him back, gaining plenty of points against teams around or below us in the league. Edited by monkey (07 Nov 2023 11.37am) We win 2-0 away but '' it's hardly the way forward '' ?! What is that then exactly ?? I read it as a critisism of Roy, and then you list the points that SNH chooses to ignore....
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Nov 23 11.52am | |
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Originally posted by palace99
you started your post with 'Palace entertain me' - not sure how i've taken that out of context. Your Brentford comment is pointless - they finished well above us last season and are also above us now, despite a limited budget and the loss of their best 2 players. This season we probably have the best GK, CB and CM 5 we have ever had (all internationals and proven PL performers) so i don't think it's too much to expect them to try and play some football and not time waste from minute 1. This season with the 3 coming up being so weak relegation is less of a concern. Surely now is the time to play 'progressive' football - it worked quite well the last 10 games of last season. If we set up against Everton for 0.0 (as we've done v Forest and Fulham) and lose 1.0 to a deflected goal or similar, i suspect you will be the first to moan. Don't you think that the time to do that is when we have the players capable of doing so ? In the last 10 matches last season we had Zaha, Olise and Eze. We have had only one of those available since the start of the season, Eze, and he has been missing through injury recently.
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PatrickA London 07 Nov 23 12.06pm | |
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I'm torn on whether we could do better with the players who have been available so far this season. On the other hand Leicester won the title with 5 excellent players with the rest of the team being made up by journeymen. Perhaps it's fairer to reserve judgement until our best players return and see if we show more attacking intent and that if their return generates better perfotmances from others.
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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 07 Nov 23 12.35pm | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
We win 2-0 away but '' it's hardly the way forward '' ?! What is that then exactly ?? I read it as a critisism of Roy, and then you list the points that SNH chooses to ignore.... I’m sure he means that style of play in general is not the way forward. Not winning 2-0
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Putitout Oxford 07 Nov 23 12.56pm | |
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Originally posted by palace99
you started your post with 'Palace entertain me' - not sure how i've taken that out of context. Your Brentford comment is pointless - they finished well above us last season and are also above us now, despite a limited budget and the loss of their best 2 players. This season we probably have the best GK, CB and CM 5 we have ever had (all internationals and proven PL performers) so i don't think it's too much to expect them to try and play some football and not time waste from minute 1. This season with the 3 coming up being so weak relegation is less of a concern. Surely now is the time to play 'progressive' football - it worked quite well the last 10 games of last season. If we set up against Everton for 0.0 (as we've done v Forest and Fulham) and lose 1.0 to a deflected goal or similar, i suspect you will be the first to moan. The out of context was the actual line you highlighted. You quote, “Palace entertain me,” you didn’t indicate that interested you. And that in its self is also out of context, because I clearly tell. In the rest of the sentence why they entertain me. Edited by Putitout (07 Nov 2023 12.57pm)
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Nov 23 1.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
The out of context was the actual line you highlighted. You quote, “Palace entertain me,” you didn’t indicate that interested you. And that in its self is also out of context, because I clearly tell. In the rest of the sentence why they entertain me. Edited by Putitout (07 Nov 2023 12.57pm) Hear Hear. I wholeheartedly concur with these sentiments.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Nov 23 1.31pm | |
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Originally posted by monkey
I’m sure he means that style of play in general is not the way forward. Not winning 2-0 I'm sure of that too, but look at the result. A 2-0 win. Then look at the players available and it adds up to achieving a good result by adopting the most suitable tactics. Which is more or less what you said too !
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 07 Nov 23 1.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Putitout
The out of context was the actual line you highlighted. You quote, “Palace entertain me,” you didn’t indicate that interested you. And that in its self is also out of context, because I clearly tell. In the rest of the sentence why they entertain me. Edited by Putitout (07 Nov 2023 12.57pm) Well said
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Uphill Bedford 07 Nov 23 1.49pm | |
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Interesting that Tony Cascarino's Team of the Week in the Times yesterday featured Sam Johnstone and Tyrick Mitchell. Johnstone also got praise from other writers. Clean sheets not just down to a solid defence and Johnstone's four Can't remember many goals conceded were his fault this season.
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southnorwoodhill 07 Nov 23 5.19pm | |
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Originally posted by monkey
Really? I think he’s pretty much spot on, apart from the Luton part, but in our current situation injury wise and after a couple of defeats I don’t see it as a criticism of Roy, it’s what he does best and why SP brought him back, gaining plenty of points against teams around or below us in the league. Edited by monkey (07 Nov 2023 11.37am) Thank you. Looks like the home truth is a bit much to bear for some folk, oh well. Also I'd like to clarify the "Luton" sentence - certainly more formidable than Burnley, and they seem to have their tails up at the moment and a giving it a good go. More formidable than Palace? Well no, that's not what I meant, but we'll see in a couple of games how that game is approached by Roy Hodgson, depending on player availability. Edited by southnorwoodhill (07 Nov 2023 5.52pm)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 07 Nov 23 5.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Uphill
Interesting that Tony Cascarino's Team of the Week in the Times yesterday featured Sam Johnstone and Tyrick Mitchell. Johnstone also got praise from other writers. Clean sheets not just down to a solid defence and Johnstone's four Can't remember many goals conceded were his fault this season. I posted earlier that although Andersen was voted MOM, I personally believed it was Johnstone. I think he's better than Guaita and possibly even Martyn or Speroni. Good reactions, good distribution, not weak on the high ball. Has the odd bad game, every goalie does, but he absolutely deserves an England place. Considering our playing out from the back approach - he's crucial, and far superior to Guaita for our style. Guaita was a great shot stopper but not the rest. The jury's out on Henderson, one day we'll probably see him.
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