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Oddball2021 Flag Adelaide 30 Aug 23 12.54pm Send a Private Message to Oddball2021 Add Oddball2021 as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Yeah thats a good idea, why dont we copy Everton. Go out and buy 3 expensive players that may or may not fit the clubs profile. Rolling the dice occassionally works. When it doesn't you end up bottom of the table and unable to spend or you'll be done for breaching FFP


Like the money spent on Franca? I’m not asking to put all our savings on red or black at the roulette table, or that the ship doesn’t need keeping afloat, I’m suggesting that our transfer priorities and business is neither beneficial for the team or club both financially and competitively. Not buying the products you need is a false economy. If your plumber says you should buy the more expensive pump and not the cheapy it is stupid and tight fisted to just ignore the problem. A faulty part of a system puts pressure on all of it. We need a RB, a winger and a striker. We don’t need to go and these from Barcelona or Man City to upgrade on Ward and Schlupp. We don’t need to blow the whole budget. These are gaping holes that will cost points and risk losing money.

 

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MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 30 Aug 23 2.18pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Franca fits the profile.

Our club is frugal, so its safe to assume that they think Franca is the real deal and a Zaha replacement.

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 30 Aug 23 2.28pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Franca fits the profile.

Our club is frugal, so its safe to assume that they think Franca is the real deal and a Zaha replacement.

Let’s hope he is good then because hasn’t he cost more than Olise and Eze together?

 

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CrazyBadger Flag Ware 30 Aug 23 2.52pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Franca concerns me.
A lot of money for someone so young, injured and inexperienced.
If he was the 'real deal' where was the other interest?
He could be someone who we identified early, and got in early interest and made him feel wanted. I hope it's this.

Seems like a big risk to me though and is not someone who we should put any great hope into solving our problems. If he's that good, it's a bonus for me.
It also wouldn't surprise me if we never saw him play thanks to injuries or ability level.


 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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Crystal_Clear Flag Belfast 30 Aug 23 3.07pm Send a Private Message to Crystal_Clear Add Crystal_Clear as a friend

As transfer deadline approaches with speed, and no further transfers at the moment, it really does come into light where we stand in the PL pyramid.

We really are over-achieving with the finances available. Whilst we consistently manage a mid table finish, our expenditure is really towards the bottom 3.

Rather than go out and spend the money to secure a player, it's a waiting game to see what happens the back end of the window (there have been exceptions, but they are not the norm).

We don't seem to be able to compete with clubs like West Ham, Fulham or even Bournemouth at this stage. Dare I say but I wonder if we compete with a club like Nottingham Forest. If they want a player, the owner will spend the money required (though we wait to see what with FPP on their mass player recruitment).

The scar of administration just over a decade ago appears to still run deep, with a very much risk adverse strategy on finances.

Unless we get a billionaire benefactor willing to invest their money (let's face it Blitzer and Harris aren't going to), then we aren't going to progress more than mid-table.

I realise that Brighton (of all teams) have managed to break the mid table barrier without major investment, but I wonder how long their buy low sell high strategy will work. The big clubs will start going to source in South America instead of buying from lower PL clubs.

I could almost see the window closing without any new recruitment, or certainly not players what we need.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 30 Aug 23 3.25pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Crystal_Clear

As transfer deadline approaches with speed, and no further transfers at the moment, it really does come into light where we stand in the PL pyramid.

We really are over-achieving with the finances available. Whilst we consistently manage a mid table finish, our expenditure is really towards the bottom 3.

Rather than go out and spend the money to secure a player, it's a waiting game to see what happens the back end of the window (there have been exceptions, but they are not the norm).

We don't seem to be able to compete with clubs like West Ham, Fulham or even Bournemouth at this stage. Dare I say but I wonder if we compete with a club like Nottingham Forest. If they want a player, the owner will spend the money required (though we wait to see what with FPP on their mass player recruitment).

The scar of administration just over a decade ago appears to still run deep, with a very much risk adverse strategy on finances.

Unless we get a billionaire benefactor willing to invest their money (let's face it Blitzer and Harris aren't going to), then we aren't going to progress more than mid-table.

I realise that Brighton (of all teams) have managed to break the mid table barrier without major investment, but I wonder how long their buy low sell high strategy will work. The big clubs will start going to source in South America instead of buying from lower PL clubs.

I could almost see the window closing without any new recruitment, or certainly not players what we need.

I think many would be surprised as to how much money the likes of and certainly BHA spend. They recuperate a lot of this through sales of course however their outlay on players is considerable, it just misses too much commentary as they are not spending it all at once on a big name(s) a la Chelsea, United etc.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 30 Aug 23 3.51pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Let’s hope he is good then because hasn’t he cost more than Olise and Eze together?

Not combined. But maybe Eze + Olise's right leg.

We don't really take gambles, especially not at this value. He'll be our 5th most expensive signing of all time. So I can only presume they are sure he is the real deal.

 

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est1905 Flag 30 Aug 23 4.44pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Who said they need to be expensive, olise and eze wasn't were they. Forget everything else and let's just look at ward in our first 3 games. Do you honestly belive he's good enough ?

And do YOU actually think the Olise's and Eze's of this world grow on trees? and if they did do you think we'd be the only club interested in them? That none of our rivals have scouts looking at more or less the same players Palace are?
You talk like its easy. Yeah, lets get out there and find 2 or 3 'inexpensive' gems and push on.
Why didn't the rest of us think of that?

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Aug 23 4.50pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


Two of those came into the club with no interest in spending on playing squad this was made clear from day 1 from SP who had to go with them he couldn't fund the club.

The money they paid for the club was ring fenced suppose to be for the ground.

You say whats the point well the point is they paid about 50m now the club is worth 3 times that this is was investment is about.

People get confused with wealth these people may be worth say billion each doesn't mean they have any available funds why would you you invest it all which is the case here.

Who do you think funded BFS spending?

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Aug 23 4.53pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

They're a great example of an investor who actually invests, they're in debt to bloom, so no debt, he bought them in league 1 without a stadium and is probably the most successful owner during his tenure. He could sell tomorrow, which he won't and make profit.

I'm sure if Parish had the money then he would do the same but he doesn't, our biggest shareholders are 2 Americans who I don't think have ever been to a game, wanted to buy Chelsea, then man u and probably Liverpool next. We was told their investment would give allow us to build a new stand, which was supposed to be completed about 4 years ago.

I have met both US owners in the club shop, they most certainly do come to games, admittedly not many

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 30 Aug 23 4.56pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


You keep blaming the Americans without any facts.

All of the Americans have attended games.

You don't know they wanted to buy Chelsea/United this was media speculation (We believe everything they say don't we they only give the truth) and even if they did why have they not sold up stake in Palace you can't own multi clubs in the same league yet they are still here.

Again why is it Americans fault for not having a new stand it's not they put money aside it's SP who runs the club.

Perhaps Sainsburys, Croydon Council, Mayor of London have delayed matters. Who knows? Certainly not you unless you believe everything you read

Edited by Spiderman (30 Aug 2023 4.56pm)

 

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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 30 Aug 23 6.13pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Oddball2021


Like the money spent on Franca? I’m not asking to put all our savings on red or black at the roulette table, or that the ship doesn’t need keeping afloat, I’m suggesting that our transfer priorities and business is neither beneficial for the team or club both financially and competitively. Not buying the products you need is a false economy. If your plumber says you should buy the more expensive pump and not the cheapy it is stupid and tight fisted to just ignore the problem. A faulty part of a system puts pressure on all of it. We need a RB, a winger and a striker. We don’t need to go and these from Barcelona or Man City to upgrade on Ward and Schlupp. We don’t need to blow the whole budget. These are gaping holes that will cost points and risk losing money.

Franca is not a typical Palace signing. But I trust Dougie Freedman to recommend what for Palace is a significant spend, over your opinion.

Palace are working to a budget in the same way that you allude to when it comes to household expenditure. The next step is to prioritise your spend. And that's where you differ from the clubs way of thinking. Clearly they believe that the right back position does not urgently require a major spend. You do. Let's see shall we.

 


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