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HKOwen Hong Kong 26 Jul 23 11.00am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don’t disagree but don’t you think that the “full support” statement was more likely just a public relations press release rather than actually from the Board, who probably weren’t, or even could not have all been, contacted? Feels like a knee jerk reaction rather than a considered response to me. She rightly carries the can for this disaster. Quiet retirement to grow flowers seems her future. You are not actually thinking this is possible surely. If you think that in this matter the board would let some PR person issue a statement on their behalf without being consulted you really have no grasp of the corporate world despite all your supposed business experience.
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Matov 26 Jul 23 11.01am | |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
My thoughts and prayers are with those on this thread who seem to be malfunctioning at the thought of Nigel Farage being right. LOL. Farage is bloody good as this s***. And he is going to milk this one for all it is worth. And good luck to him. Personally, I think he perhaps should have been more supportive when others suffered a similar fate but lets take the wins when they come up. And this is a definite win for us anti-Establishment types.
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eaglesdare 26 Jul 23 11.06am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
LOL. Farage is bloody good as this s***. And he is going to milk this one for all it is worth. And good luck to him. Personally, I think he perhaps should have been more supportive when others suffered a similar fate but lets take the wins when they come up. And this is a definite win for us anti-Establishment types. Farage Deserves a knighthood!
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cryrst The garden of England 26 Jul 23 11.07am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don’t disagree but don’t you think that the “full support” statement was more likely just a public relations press release rather than actually from the Board, who probably weren’t, or even could not have all been, contacted? Feels like a knee jerk reaction rather than a considered response to me. She rightly carries the can for this disaster. Quiet retirement to grow flowers seems her future. Let’s wait for the email trail as there will be one. Maybe the whole board could be quietly growing flowers
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 26 Jul 23 11.08am | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Your 4th paragraph suggests he was de banked due to his political views, no? You say it was the banks perception of what their customers opinion about Farage is, did they ask them all for their views? Of course not. How has Farages political views changed since he started banking there? Initially you were taken in by the lack of funds excuse, not true apparently.You seem to be making this into an anti-Farage thread. If the bank had no broken confidentiality he would not been able Edited by Spiderman (26 Jul 2023 10.06am) Edited by Spiderman (26 Jul 2023 10.12am) That his politics and attitudes lie at the base of this is beyond dispute. If Farage wasn’t Farage it would not have happened. That though is not the point. It’s not those politics and attitudes themselves which have directly caused the “debanking”. They are just the indirect cause. There is the intervening level of the consideration of how other customers will perceive them, and it’s those perceptions and the impact on the bank’s reputation which are the direct cause. That step is vitally important to understand. It changes everything. That he has always held such views is also beside the point. The bank has, and is free to, change their’s. That the bank has handled it badly is obvious and the fallout deserved but that doesn’t mean that Farage’s claims are true. They aren’t. He is just making political capital out of a bad mistake by the bank.
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eaglesdare 26 Jul 23 11.18am | |
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I have a lot of respect for Farage taking on Coutts, the BBC and CEO Alison Rose, who have all now apologised to him. It has been a concern for some time how that left wing ideologues can affect trusted institutions. On this occasion the victim was someone with a larger platform than most people. Prior to Farage, there have been others such as vicars, commentators & gender critical activists who have had issues with their bank accounts. Citing political activity as a reason.
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cryrst The garden of England 26 Jul 23 11.24am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That his politics and attitudes lie at the base of this is beyond dispute. If Farage wasn’t Farage it would not have happened. That though is not the point. It’s not those politics and attitudes themselves which have directly caused the “debanking”. They are just the indirect cause. There is the intervening level of the consideration of how other customers will perceive them, and it’s those perceptions and the impact on the bank’s reputation which are the direct cause. That step is vitally important to understand. It changes everything. That he has always held such views is also beside the point. The bank has, and is free to, change their’s. That the bank has handled it badly is obvious and the fallout deserved but that doesn’t mean that Farage’s claims are true. They aren’t. He is just making political capital out of a bad mistake by the bank.
So have you got evidence to back up this theory that other customers may have been offended by NF having a bank account with coutts or any other banks within their brand. You know just to clarify your perception that this was a genuine decision needed by coutts from a business position to protect their reputation !
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Jul 23 11.26am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I can't believe that WE actually agrees that someone can be de-banked and effectively unable to function in society because of legally held views shared by many. I know WE is a pompous wanna be know it all who thinks being contrarian is somehow demonstrating a value but in this case I simply can't countenance his thinks this is ok. Farage is just highlighting a problem that has been going on for ages, with many victims.
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Spiderman Horsham 26 Jul 23 11.40am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That his politics and attitudes lie at the base of this is beyond dispute. If Farage wasn’t Farage it would not have happened. That though is not the point. It’s not those politics and attitudes themselves which have directly caused the “debanking”. They are just the indirect cause. There is the intervening level of the consideration of how other customers will perceive them, and it’s those perceptions and the impact on the bank’s reputation which are the direct cause. That step is vitally important to understand. It changes everything. That he has always held such views is also beside the point. The bank has, and is free to, change their’s. That the bank has handled it badly is obvious and the fallout deserved but that doesn’t mean that Farage’s claims are true. They aren’t. He is just making political capital out of a bad mistake by the bank.
So are you saying Farage is lying? Come on WE, tgat would have been plastered all over the media by now, instead of all the grovelling apologies.
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Badger11 Beckenham 26 Jul 23 11.58am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don’t disagree but don’t you think that the “full support” statement was more likely just a public relations press release rather than actually from the Board, who probably weren’t, or even could not have all been, contacted? Feels like a knee jerk reaction rather than a considered response to me. She rightly carries the can for this disaster. Quiet retirement to grow flowers seems her future. From your trusted source the BBC. "On Tuesday NatWest's chair Sir Howard Davies said that the board "retains full confidence" in Alison Rose as the bank's chief executive." Now if that statement is not true at the time he made it then he should go.
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Badger11 Beckenham 26 Jul 23 12.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
LOL. Farage is bloody good as this s***. And he is going to milk this one for all it is worth. And good luck to him. Personally, I think he perhaps should have been more supportive when others suffered a similar fate but lets take the wins when they come up. And this is a definite win for us anti-Establishment types. LOL Coutts decide to kick out loud mouth politician who made his career out using the media tp further his agenda. Did they seriously think he would go meekly?
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Jul 23 1.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I don’t disagree but don’t you think that the “full support” statement was more likely just a public relations press release rather than actually from the Board, who probably weren’t, or even could not have all been, contacted? Feels like a knee jerk reaction rather than a considered response to me. She rightly carries the can for this disaster. Quiet retirement to grow flowers seems her future. That’s an odd point of view. The Chairman would have authorised that “ full support “ statement and that represents the Boards position whether they have all been appraised of the situation or not. There’s now a case for him to resign having so publicly backed Rose.
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