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  georgenorman  12 Jul 24 10.05pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Obsessions can blind people to reality. Especially one like this. The offspring of your offspring won’t suffer from this kind of obsession. They will accept the new realities, just as we have. Our parents generation had their own, which we came to accept. The world moves on. We do, the incomers do, the lines between the cultures blurs, we participate a little in their’s and they in our’s, until a homogeneous new society exists. We won’t see it, but I predict it. No one accepts terrorism. Not in the past, today or future. That’s criminality. Religious zealotry has existed in one way or another for many centuries. I dislike it intensely, whatever form it takes or whatever source it springs from. However, it’s behaviour that matters. What anyone believes is their business. It’s what they do that matters. So long as we maintain the law, without fear or favour, there is no issue. No one will annihilate our culture. It will survive and gradually be adopted by all successive generations. It’s what happens. Retention of past culture will be there too, because people honour their heritage but that’s not a threat. It’s an enrichment. Otherness is not though just these things. It’s anything which doesn’t match your personal comfort zone. For some this would include those in the LGTB community, those with alternative political views, feminists, people of colour, etc etc. Those who want to see nothing changing other than back to where it was in their youth regard those that are bringing about change they don’t like as the others. Nero fiddled while Rome burned. These days we have efficient firefighters to put out any pockets of problems and can isolate bad outbreaks so given enough time the fire will run out of fuel. Rome is safe. But can they cope with faulty gas appliances unserviced by rogue landlords?
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Teddy Eagle  12 Jul 24 10.08pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
In the same way any suspicious behaviour is dealt with. Observation and intervention if required. No one is above the law. So long as historic enmities remain at the level of mutual distain there’s no issue. Break out into violence or threatening behaviour then that must be dealt with and both groups warned that it won’t be tolerated. Warned? In the same way that criminals are warned that their activities will not be tolerated. That's been a roaring success for hundreds of years.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jul 24 10.21pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Obsessions can blind people to reality. Especially one like this. The offspring of your offspring won’t suffer from this kind of obsession. They will accept the new realities, just as we have. Our parents generation had their own, which we came to accept. The world moves on. We do, the incomers do, the lines between the cultures blurs, we participate a little in their’s and they in our’s, until a homogeneous new society exists. We won’t see it, but I predict it. No one accepts terrorism. Not in the past, today or future. That’s criminality. Religious zealotry has existed in one way or another for many centuries. I dislike it intensely, whatever form it takes or whatever source it springs from. However, it’s behaviour that matters. What anyone believes is their business. It’s what they do that matters. So long as we maintain the law, without fear or favour, there is no issue. No one will annihilate our culture. It will survive and gradually be adopted by all successive generations. It’s what happens. Retention of past culture will be there too, because people honour their heritage but that’s not a threat. It’s an enrichment. Otherness is not though just these things. It’s anything which doesn’t match your personal comfort zone. For some this would include those in the LGTB community, those with alternative political views, feminists, people of colour, etc etc. Those who want to see nothing changing other than back to where it was in their youth regard those that are bringing about change they don’t like as the others. Nero fiddled while Rome burned. These days we have efficient firefighters to put out any pockets of problems and can isolate bad outbreaks so given enough time the fire will run out of fuel. Rome is safe. Yes, we should all accept the country going to s*** because the world moves on. You are completely off your gourd.
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 12 Jul 24 10.36pm |
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No one will annihilate our culture. It will survive and gradually be adopted by all successive generations. It’s what happens. Retention of past culture will be there too, because people honour their heritage but that’s not a threat. It’s an enrichment. Our culture used to include slave ownership; I miss those times. Apparently I should feel ashamed and not honour it. Apparently I have white privilege….because I am white, so am I being annihilated in my own country or am I being enriched by my culture being changed?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Jul 24 11.38pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Warned? In the same way that criminals are warned that their activities will not be tolerated. That's been a roaring success for hundreds of years. No. You described a particular situation. Any criminal must be dealt with as an individual. Any grouping they belong to would be the one to be taken aside and warned that they were under observation and for them to make sure their membership understood the consequences of breaking the law.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Jul 24 11.46pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
No one will annihilate our culture. It will survive and gradually be adopted by all successive generations. It’s what happens. Retention of past culture will be there too, because people honour their heritage but that’s not a threat. It’s an enrichment. Our culture used to include slave ownership; I miss those times. Apparently I should feel ashamed and not honour it. Apparently I have white privilege….because I am white, so am I being annihilated in my own country or am I being enriched by my culture being changed? Does anyone really miss slave ownership or is this a rather silly attempt at parody? It’s probably the latter but you can never be 100% sure here. Thank goodness we did change our culture. Through our own enlightenment and sense of fairness. Which are genuine British values. You are being enriched. Although you quite possibly don’t recognise that. Yet.
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| Teddy Eagle 12 Jul 24 11.49pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No. You described a particular situation. Any criminal must be dealt with as an individual. Any grouping they belong to would be the one to be taken aside and warned that they were under observation and for them to make sure their membership understood the consequences of breaking the law. How does that work? The mythical community leaders get visited and told to have a word with everybody? Good luck with that.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 13 Jul 24 12.33am |
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France used to be amazing. Now it's a kip.
Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford |
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| georgenorman 13 Jul 24 7.54am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
France used to be amazing. Now it's a kip. As is Sweden.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 24 8.20am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
How does that work? The mythical community leaders get visited and told to have a word with everybody? Good luck with that. They aren’t though mythical. Most communities have leaders, either religious or by reason of seniority, who get respect. They aren’t really a community without a hub to revolve around. They aren’t always official but they exist.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 24 8.23am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yes, we should all accept the country going to s*** because the world moves on. You are completely off your gourd. The biggest reason we are going to s*** is because of what you voted for in 2016 and the way Johnson subsequently behaved.
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| Teddy Eagle 13 Jul 24 8.42am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They aren’t though mythical. Most communities have leaders, either religious or by reason of seniority, who get respect. They aren’t really a community without a hub to revolve around. They aren’t always official but they exist. Do they? I've never heard who mine might be.
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