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hythemaceagle Flag Hythe Kent 05 Mar 23 11.21am Send a Private Message to hythemaceagle Add hythemaceagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I agree. Desmond Haynes, Gordon Greenidge, Viv Richards, Brian Lara, Clive Lloyd, Courtney Walsh, Curtley Ambrose, Malcom Marshall, Joel Garner, Ian Bishop and Michael Holding all lacked spirit, fight and dedication

But they didn’t have the opposition snapping at their ankles on a cold damp afternoon in the middle of winter!

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 05 Mar 23 11.26am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

If Parish and his 3 mates, hadnt bought the club, there wouldnt be a C Palace, if he didnt bring in the Yanks, we would of been relegated years ago.
No one is perfect, but laying the blame at him, seems a little churlish.

Steve (as that's obviously who you are) we are all grateful for saving the club and for what you've achieved in the last ten years but it's time for you to retire and for someone with deeper pockets to take over as we are currently only heading one way and that's back to The Championship

 

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Den1923 Flag 05 Mar 23 11.30am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

If Parish and his 3 mates, hadnt bought the club, there wouldnt be a C Palace, if he didnt bring in the Yanks, we would of been relegated years ago.
No one is perfect, but laying the blame at him, seems a little churlish.

That's all history, it's the future that matters, history is littered with organisations that failed to progress with the times and as a consequence they no longer exist today. If Parish really cares about this club he would accept that his time is over and new blood is needed. The alternative is an ever increasing downward spiral to the lower leagues or worst still oblivion !

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Mar 23 11.38am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I agree. Desmond Haynes, Gordon Greenidge, Viv Richards, Brian Lara, Clive Lloyd, Courtney Walsh, Curtley Ambrose, Malcom Marshall, Joel Garner, Ian Bishop and Michael Holding all lacked spirit, fight and dedication

That was cricket and one particular era.

You do have to admit that we are starting to exhibit some of the characteristics of African national teams.
Lots of athleticism and flair, but ineffectual when up against real quality. The Premier League is full of quality, and we do not appear to have the tactical awareness or striking striking quality to unlock defences.

It comes down to a lack of recruitment of quality strikers, too many players who don't know when or how to pass a ball, and a manager who doesn't seem to have many ideas.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Mar 23 11.41am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by hythemaceagle

But they didn’t have the opposition snapping at their ankles on a cold damp afternoon in the middle of winter!

Andy Gray, Eric Young, Ian Wright

 


Red and Blue Army!

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 05 Mar 23 11.48am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

I didn't go yesterday but it's disppointing to read that Olise was so poor.

I'd (perhaps foolishly) started to believe that he and Zaha might dig us out of the slump we're in.

Aside from these two I don't see where any quality is coming from.

Ahamada's appearance doesn't sound encouraging either.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Mar 23 1.50pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

I didn't go yesterday but it's disppointing to read that Olise was so poor.

I'd (perhaps foolishly) started to believe that he and Zaha might dig us out of the slump we're in.

Aside from these two I don't see where any quality is coming from.

Ahamada's appearance doesn't sound encouraging either.

Prior to joining us his only experience in the Bundesliga was 26 games for Stuttgart.Limited experience at the top level.

Edited by Willo (05 Mar 2023 1.51pm)

 

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radicalsteve Flag ottawa 05 Mar 23 4.16pm Send a Private Message to radicalsteve Add radicalsteve as a friend

Lots of problems in squad quality, depth, experience and balance, but what has struck me recently is that the team dynamic of playing for each other has totally evaporated. Overpaid, under-motivated, playing firstly for themselves, not the team or the club. That might be harsh and perhaps not the reality, but that is how it looks. Then a manager who might know that, but then (apparently) forces the coach who might have said that out loud, to leave, suggests we have a real problem that can't be fixed without making changes in the back office. It may not be PV's doing, but doesn't look like he has the capacity to resolve the dressing room dynamic on and off the pitch.

 

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Nth Kent Eagle Flag Dartford 05 Mar 23 5.19pm Send a Private Message to Nth Kent Eagle Add Nth Kent Eagle as a friend

A good day out other than the football and the poor facilities in the upper tier. Sad to say that we are so lifeless now with no tactics. Going to be touch and go this year but without massive changes it will be relegation for certain next season.

Edited by Nth Kent Eagle (05 Mar 2023 7.09pm)

 

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SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 05 Mar 23 6.11pm Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

How the hell has that 6th Liverpool goal stood when ours didn’t. ??? I’m genuinely baffled

 


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bryne and holton Flag 05 Mar 23 6.12pm Send a Private Message to bryne and holton Add bryne and holton as a friend

Some forum members have understood my comments about Afro-
Caribbean culture. Others have not and provide examples of
individuals.
I will provide another example of socio-cultural values and
football.
After 1945 the North-East was the " hotbed of soccer" not only
at a professional level ( Newcastle and Sunderland) but also at
an amateur level ( Bishop Auckland and Crook Town ) Why was this ?
The players who played for these clubs at this time came from the
same impoverished working class backgrounds and generally held
the same values.
At Palace we now have a squad which is predominantly of an
Afro-Caribbean background. So the prevailing culture within the club is different as a consequence

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Mar 23 10.25pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by bryne and holton

Some forum members have understood my comments about Afro-
Caribbean culture. Others have not and provide examples of
individuals.
I will provide another example of socio-cultural values and
football.
After 1945 the North-East was the " hotbed of soccer" not only
at a professional level ( Newcastle and Sunderland) but also at
an amateur level ( Bishop Auckland and Crook Town ) Why was this ?
The players who played for these clubs at this time came from the
same impoverished working class backgrounds and generally held
the same values.
At Palace we now have a squad which is predominantly of an
Afro-Caribbean background. So the prevailing culture within the club is different as a consequence

Before you carry on digging, please tell me which players have an Afro-Caribbean background and what their background implies in their attitudes and behaviours.

By the way, is there a reason why you misspelt Johnny Byrne’s name? Given recent posts you certainly look ‘dubious’.

Edited by Mapletree (05 Mar 2023 10.48pm)

 

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