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taylors lovechild Flag 30 Nov 22 8.47am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I noticed some Senegal supporters with their faces painted white.
If any England supporters painted their face black they would be subjected to animus,and face shot and shell by the woke left-wing twitterati who would not give a fig about "White face".

Edited by Willo (29 Nov 2022 6.32pm)

For clarity, here's what 30 seconds research can tell you [Link] So basically they are wearing white paint for cultural reasons. If England supporters wore black face paint there is nothing in our culture to justify it other than racist tropes and the black and white minstrels. It's like Hindus wearing a symbol that looks like a swastika or a white Christian wearing a swastika. I think also it's widely recognised that racism is largely defined as an attack on a race of people that are a minority in a society, hence why no one is ever accused of being racist against white Christians in Europe. Anyway, that's enough from me.

On the football front Wales were pretty awful last night, but in fairness their squad is made up of lower league players, while Bale and Allen were not 100% and Nico Williams has struggled with injuries this tournament. The commentator was saying that Wales had only won two of their last 11 games, it just so happened to be the WC play-off matches. England never really had to get out of second gear. Senegal will be a much bigger test, but I think England should have enough

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 22 8.59am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

For clarity, here's what 30 seconds research can tell you [Link] So basically they are wearing white paint for cultural reasons. If England supporters wore black face paint there is nothing in our culture to justify it other than racist tropes and the black and white minstrels. It's like Hindus wearing a symbol that looks like a swastika or a white Christian wearing a swastika. I think also it's widely recognised that racism is largely defined as an attack on a race of people that are a minority in a society, hence why no one is ever accused of being racist against white Christians in Europe. Anyway, that's enough from me.

On the football front Wales were pretty awful last night, but in fairness their squad is made up of lower league players, while Bale and Allen were not 100% and Nico Williams has struggled with injuries this tournament. The commentator was saying that Wales had only won two of their last 11 games, it just so happened to be the WC play-off matches. England never really had to get out of second gear. Senegal will be a much bigger test, but I think England should have enough

This is not the 'Thread' to debate such matters, I can assure you that I have got into protracted discussion on such issues outside of HOL, accordingly I will concentrate my comments on 'World Cup 2022' and offer my opinions away from this revered site.

Returning to the football, I wholeheartedly agree that Wales were very disappointing and it really was a comfortable victory for England.
With regards to Senegal, 10 of their 26 man squad are contracted to clubs in England.

Edited by Willo (30 Nov 2022 9.04am)

 

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taylors lovechild Flag 30 Nov 22 9.26am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

This is not the 'Thread' to debate such matters, I can assure you that I have got into protracted discussion on such issues outside of HOL, accordingly I will concentrate my comments on 'World Cup 2022' and offer my opinions away from this revered site.

Returning to the football, I wholeheartedly agree that Wales were very disappointing and it really was a comfortable victory for England.
With regards* to Senegal, 10 of their 26 man squad are contracted to clubs in England.

Edited by Willo (30 Nov 2022 9.04am)

I agree, but you can't make politically-charged comments and then expect no rebuttal.

*With regard

 

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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 30 Nov 22 9.31am

Originally posted by Willo

This is not the 'Thread' to debate such matters, I can assure you that I have got into protracted discussion on such issues outside of HOL, accordingly I will concentrate my comments on 'World Cup 2022' and offer my opinions away from this revered site.

You shouldn't have posted a significantly political comment if you're then going to say 'this isn't the thread for such matters' when someone replies. That and there is clearly a context to it that you don't want to hear and so it might be that this isn't the topic for you. Try actually enjoying the competition and commenting on something positive about it instead..

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 22 9.33am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I agree, but you can't make politically-charged comments and then expect no rebuttal.

*With regard

[Link]

 

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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 30 Nov 22 9.34am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Why are there so many women presenting and commentating? It's particularly jarring.

I'm glad to hear that they've got them doing a bit of jarring after they've finished. Earning their keep I like to call it, and everyone loves a bit of strawberry jam.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 22 9.40am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by footythoughts


You shouldn't have posted a significantly political comment if you're then going to say 'this isn't the thread for such matters' when someone replies. That and there is clearly a context to it that you don't want to hear and so it might be that this isn't the topic for you. Try actually enjoying the competition and commenting on something positive about it instead..

With the greatest of respect, I commented on Senegal supporters in a 'World Cup 2022' thread.
The debate gallivanted down the path of broadening the discussion, hence my assertion that "This isn't the thread for such matters".
I could have responded with my own opinions but this would have de-railed this thread.

In terms of displaying positivity about the competition I did actually assert that England were worthy winners last night.

 

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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 30 Nov 22 9.43am

Originally posted by Willo

With the greatest of respect, I commented on Senegal supporters in a 'World Cup 2022' thread.
The debate gallivanted down the path of broadening the discussion, hence my assertion that "This isn't the thread for such matters".
I could have responded with my own opinions but this would have de-railed this thread.

In terms of displaying positivity about the competition I did actually assert that England were worthy winners last night.

Your post, short though it was, clearly could barely have been more political if it had tried. My only point being, that if that's good enough for you, it's good enough for the person replying.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 22 9.53am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by footythoughts

Your post, short though it was, clearly could barely have been more political if it had tried. My only point being, that if that's good enough for you, it's good enough for the person replying.

The person responded by providing a Link and I was not taking umbrage with the fact that the information was presented to me.

My point was that I was not prepared to engage in a debate about the wider issue on this particular thread for the reasons I stated.
Had I done so, I fear the discussion would de-railed the debate as it would have veered away from the subject matter.

 

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taylors lovechild Flag 30 Nov 22 9.55am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Perhaps this is why people mindlessly pluralize regard and say in regards to and its partner in crime, with regards to.

It's ok, I was just being a pedant to tease you. We all make mistakes (I presume you provided the link to highlight your error?)

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 22 9.59am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Perhaps this is why people mindlessly pluralize regard and say in regards to and its partner in crime, with regards to.

It's ok, I was just being a pedant to tease you. We all make mistakes (I presume you provided the link to highlight your error?)

Being a person who never threatens brilliance and is an intellectual vacuum,I make more mistakes than most.
I bow down to all those perspicacious ladies and gentlemen who possess intellectual acuity.

Edited by Willo (30 Nov 2022 10.01am)

 

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footythoughts Flag Beckenham 30 Nov 22 10.00am

Originally posted by Willo

The person responded by providing a Link and I was not taking umbrage with the fact that the information was presented to me.

My point was that I was not prepared to engage in a debate about the wider issue on this particular thread for the reasons I stated.
Had I done so, I fear the discussion would de-railed the debate as it would have veered away from the subject matter.

Understood. In any case there is much to look forward to with this tournament and so that in my view is a good perspective to take. If we're to drift to valid complaints about the Qatar World Cup, face paint is low down a long list .

 

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