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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Feb 22 8.56am
Originally posted by Daddyorc He did touch it, and it was going out (if not out already). For the person that says it's irrelevant, it isn't! If the ball was already out and the goalie touched Conor, is it a penalty? No! The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing. Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us. Was it even reviewed by VAR ? No. And while the people in charge of VAR are the same people that make inconsistent decisions when they are refereeing, we aren't going to see the best use of that technology. Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Feb 22 8.56am

Originally posted by Daddyorc

He did touch it, and it was going out (if not out already). For the person that says it's irrelevant, it isn't! If the ball was already out and the goalie touched Conor, is it a penalty? No!

The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing.

Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us.

Was it even reviewed by VAR ? No. And while the people in charge of VAR are the same people that make inconsistent decisions when they are refereeing, we aren't going to see the best use of that technology.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 22 9.04am
Originally posted by NEILLO The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing. Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us. Was it even reviewed by VAR ? No. And while the people in charge of VAR are the same people that make inconsistent decisions when they are refereeing, we aren't going to see the best use of that technology. As I have previously elucidated, whenever there are subjective decisions there will always be accusations of "Inconsistency" etc etc.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Feb 22 9.04am

Originally posted by NEILLO

The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing.

Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us.

Was it even reviewed by VAR ? No. And while the people in charge of VAR are the same people that make inconsistent decisions when they are refereeing, we aren't going to see the best use of that technology.

As I have previously elucidated, whenever there are subjective decisions there will always be accusations of "Inconsistency" etc etc.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Feb 22 9.07am
Originally posted by Willo As I have previously elucidated, whenever there are subjective decisions there will always be accusations of "Inconsistency" etc etc. Yes there will be and rightly so. It's been the main complaint about officials, from players and spectators, ever since I can remember. Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Feb 22 9.07am

Originally posted by Willo

As I have previously elucidated, whenever there are subjective decisions there will always be accusations of "Inconsistency" etc etc.

Yes there will be and rightly so.

It's been the main complaint about officials, from players and spectators, ever since I can remember.

Old, Ungifted and White

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Feb 22 9.57am
Originally posted by NEILLO The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing. Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us. Was it even reviewed by VAR ? No. And while the people in charge of VAR are the same people that make inconsistent decisions when they are refereeing, we aren't going to see the best use of that technology. I've only watched the full game on Palace TV, but I thought Gallagher's reaction was interesting - a sort of 'hopeful look at the ref but not really expecting anything to be given' look as if he didn't really think it was a penalty. I wonder to what extent the fouled/allegedly fouled player's reaction has on a ref's decision.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Feb 22 9.57am

Originally posted by NEILLO

The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing.

Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us.

I've only watched the full game on Palace TV, but I thought Gallagher's reaction was interesting - a sort of 'hopeful look at the ref but not really expecting anything to be given' look as if he didn't really think it was a penalty. I wonder to what extent the fouled/allegedly fouled player's reaction has on a ref's decision.

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CrazyBadger Ware 25 Feb 22 10.18am
Originally posted by NEILLO The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing. Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us. Was it even reviewed by VAR ? No. And while the people in charge of VAR are the same people that make inconsistent decisions when they are refereeing, we aren't going to see the best use of that technology. If it was not too dissimilar to the jota decision, then it should not have been given. I don't think it was - CG made no effort to initiate contact, the keeper was late into the challenge. That's a free kick if outside the box. does it matter where the ball was going? not sure. 50/50 for me. The ref couldn't have given it either way, and wouldn't have been overturned whichever decision he made. I've got no problem if we get 'inconsistent' VAR decisions if the inconsistency is born from improving past mistakes. "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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Ware 25 Feb 22 10.18am

Originally posted by NEILLO

The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing.

Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us.

If it was not too dissimilar to the jota decision, then it should not have been given. I don't think it was - CG made no effort to initiate contact, the keeper was late into the challenge. That's a free kick if outside the box. does it matter where the ball was going? not sure.
50/50 for me. The ref couldn't have given it either way, and wouldn't have been overturned whichever decision he made.

I've got no problem if we get 'inconsistent' VAR decisions if the inconsistency is born from improving past mistakes.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 25 Feb 22 11.27am
Why has no-one even mentioned in the CG/Foster incident, there was a Watford defender(No14 Hassele) also involved? There will always be inconsistency, as believe it or not Refs are Human Beings. Humans make mistake, Humans view things differently, even on these boards/threads everyone has a different view/take on the same incident. As for, was it a pen, no. Could've it been a pen, yes. If the ref's opinion was, that either Foster OR Hassele had 'deliberatly' fouled CG, then irrespective of where the ball was/went or who touched it, then, Yes, it would be a pen. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 25 Feb 22 11.27am

Why has no-one even mentioned in the CG/Foster incident, there was a Watford defender(No14 Hassele) also involved? There will always be inconsistency, as believe it or not Refs are Human Beings. Humans make mistake, Humans view things differently, even on these boards/threads everyone has a different view/take on the same incident.
As for, was it a pen, no. Could've it been a pen, yes. If the ref's opinion was, that either Foster OR Hassele had 'deliberatly' fouled CG, then irrespective of where the ball was/went or who touched it, then, Yes, it would be a pen.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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eritheagle Erith 25 Feb 22 11.28am
Originally posted by doombear Unfortunately, Clyne was blocking him from being able to get to the ball in an attempt to mark a player. No he wasn’t but unfortunately Butland got involved with the man Clyne was marking when he didn’t need to. The ball dropped well short of where Clyne was and Butland had a clear pathway.
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Erith 25 Feb 22 11.28am

Originally posted by doombear

Unfortunately, Clyne was blocking him from being able to get to the ball in an attempt to mark a player.

No he wasn’t but unfortunately Butland got involved with the man Clyne was marking when he didn’t need to. The ball dropped well short of where Clyne was and Butland had a clear pathway.

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silvertop Portishead 25 Feb 22 11.51am
Originally posted by spartakev2 Really, you'd take a point at home against Burnley who are third from bottom..... Given their form and the fact that a point will hurt them more than it hurts us, yes.
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silvertop

Portishead 25 Feb 22 11.51am

Originally posted by spartakev2

Really, you'd take a point at home against Burnley who are third from bottom.....

Given their form and the fact that a point will hurt them more than it hurts us, yes.

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babylonjohn St Leonards-on-Sea 25 Feb 22 12.09pm
Originally posted by doombear I've only watched the full game on Palace TV, but I thought Gallagher's reaction was interesting - a sort of 'hopeful look at the ref but not really expecting anything to be given' look as if he didn't really think it was a penalty. I wonder to what extent the fouled/allegedly fouled player's reaction has on a ref's decision. Ha ha not much I reckon. Every player always claims its there throw in, claims they got the ball when penalised for fouling, claims they have done nothing wrong etc etc
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babylonjohn

St Leonards-on-Sea 25 Feb 22 12.09pm

Originally posted by doombear

Ha ha not much I reckon. Every player always claims its there throw in, claims they got the ball when penalised for fouling, claims they have done nothing wrong etc etc

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taylors lovechild 25 Feb 22 12.15pm
Originally posted by NEILLO The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing. Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us. Was it even reviewed by VAR ? No. And while the people in charge of VAR are the same people that make inconsistent decisions when they are refereeing, we aren't going to see the best use of that technology. I think that's the bigger issue, not whether it was a penalty or not but the fact VAR either didn't look at it at all, or gave it 5 seconds of attention. In contrast, when it comes to the big teams VAR seems to do a forensic analysis.
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Originally posted by NEILLO

The incident took place directly ahead of where I was standing.

Whether CG had the ball under control or not ( he didn't ), the contact made on him by Foster could have been given as a penalty. Not too dis-similar to the Jota decision that went against us.

I think that's the bigger issue, not whether it was a penalty or not but the fact VAR either didn't look at it at all, or gave it 5 seconds of attention. In contrast, when it comes to the big teams VAR seems to do a forensic analysis.

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Feb 22 12.39pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild I think that's the bigger issue, not whether it was a penalty or not but the fact VAR either didn't look at it at all, or gave it 5 seconds of attention. In contrast, when it comes to the big teams VAR seems to do a forensic analysis. Exactly. For the sake of clarity, I didn't think it was a penalty, but then again I didn't think the Jota incident was one either. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Feb 22 12.39pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Exactly.

For the sake of clarity, I didn't think it was a penalty, but then again I didn't think the Jota incident was one either.

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Eaglecoops CR3 25 Feb 22 12.45pm
Originally posted by NEILLO Exactly. For the sake of clarity, I didn't think it was a penalty, but then again I didn't think the Jota incident was one either. The only 3 people on the planet who thought the Jota incident was a foul, were Klopp and the two match officials and even one of them changed his mind.
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CR3 25 Feb 22 12.45pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

Exactly.

For the sake of clarity, I didn't think it was a penalty, but then again I didn't think the Jota incident was one either.

The only 3 people on the planet who thought the Jota incident was a foul, were Klopp and the two match officials and even one of them changed his mind.

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