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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Feb 22 1.05pm | |
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Originally posted by thechaddyboy
If we're currently paying him 120K a week I doubt he'll re-sign for 25% less. All boils down to what offers come in for him & whether others value him as much as we do, may well be tempted by a bigger team but, will they match or beat the wage &, if he leaves is he guaranteed a starting place in the 1st team or destined to be a 'bit player' in a much better squad. What's the point jumping ship to sit on the bench & have little or no role in any cup / league winning side ?
It's actually about 33.3% less but still, good point Edited by Nicholas91 (24 Feb 2022 1.06pm)
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 24 Feb 22 1.25pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Also, sell him to who? The idea that there are a load of suitors for Zaha on a £120k per week contract is simplistic. He's got no real incentive to take a pay cut and I can't imagine clubs queuing up to pay him what we do.
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taylors lovechild 24 Feb 22 1.29pm | |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
At his peak he was unstoppable, now he is a useful forward and probably still the most likely to create something out of nothing. The issue is the rest of his game, with a massive amount of inconsistency being seen, one minute looking like the old Wilf (like the goal at Norwich) the next minute tripping over his own feet or misplacing a pass from 12 yards. I do still think he looks committed though and works hard for the team, the problem is his passing and dribbling has become erratic and rather than winning fouls like he used to he's just losing the ball; players often don't even need to foul him anymore. If you could combine Ayew's input outside the 18-yard box with Zaha's inside it then we'd have a great player. I said this last season, but I hope he rediscovers his old form for the last dozen or so games and gets a move to a CL in the summer so at least he goes out on a high. Increasingly this seems like a fantasy though. Sorry to quote my own post, but this is exactly what I saw again last night, hard work, a couple of moments of brilliance and a lot of losing the ball. The question is, does it matter if he runs down blind alleys and gets tackled all the time if he keeps scoring? Probably not. In the old days we thought he was great but just needed to score/create more. Seems you can't win The fact he has not been complaining constantly for the last few games has been a real positive change. Watford really tested that last night with constant kicks, tugs and stamps (including a blatantly nasty one by Sissoko).
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Feb 22 1.30pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
Sure, if that came true, but I think it's a long-shot. Arsenal would firstly have to qualify, and then decide they want to make a size-able investment in a winger who's never played at that level. Given they have Saka/Smith-Rowe and Martinelli all coming through, I can't see them doing it. Arteta is also a bit of a stickler for discipline and Wilf doesn't seem a great fit for the profile of player he seems to like.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Feb 22 1.37pm | |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
Sorry to quote my own post, but this is exactly what I saw again last night, hard work, a couple of moments of brilliance and a lot of losing the ball. The question is, does it matter if he runs down blind alleys and gets tackled all the time if he keeps scoring? Probably not. In the old days we thought he was great but just needed to score/create more. Seems you can't win The fact he has not been complaining constantly for the last few games has been a real positive change. Watford really tested that last night with constant kicks, tugs and stamps (including a blatantly nasty one by Sissoko). There's certainly truth to what you're saying, but 'useful forward' feels a bit harsh - he's still our best outlet and most dangerous player in the majority of games, including last night. I think your line about the old days is spot on; he's not as exciting and eye-catching as he used to be, but his output is considerably better; Goals scored by wingers since the start of last season; Salah - 40 Barring Salah who is a freak of nature, he's up there with anyone in the country.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Feb 22 1.39pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
There's certainly truth to what you're saying, but 'useful forward' feels a bit harsh - he's still our best outlet and most dangerous player in the majority of games, including last night. I think your line about the old days is spot on; he's not as exciting and eye-catching as he used to be, but his output is considerably better; Goals scored by wingers since the start of last season; Salah - 40 Barring Salah who is a freak of nature, he's up there with anyone in the country. Interesting that, would've no idea otherwise!
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PalazioVecchio south pole 24 Feb 22 2.33pm | |
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I wonder do wilf and viera routinely speak English or French to each other ?
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 24 Feb 22 2.47pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Also, sell him to who? The idea that there are a load of suitors for Zaha on a £120k per week contract is simplistic. He's got no real incentive to take a pay cut and I can't imagine clubs queuing up to pay him what we do.
Newcastle, Arsenal, Everton, Aston Villa a European club would all pay 15m for Zaha, with his wages for another year that works out at 21m you have to ask is it better to get the money and buy a winger or possibly end up with nothing next summer, not an easy decision
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Feb 22 3.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Newcastle, Arsenal, Everton, Aston Villa a European club would all pay 15m for Zaha, with his wages for another year that works out at 21m you have to ask is it better to get the money and buy a winger or possibly end up with nothing next summer, not an easy decision Ah 'a European club' - their recruitment is always good to be fair, very well run. Wilf for another season is worth far more than £15-20m in my opinion - not even a close decision. Framing it like that also implies there's no chance he signs an extension, which is obviously not the case.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 24 Feb 22 5.05pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
I wonder do wilf and viera routinely speak English or French to each other ? yes I believe they do
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 24 Feb 22 5.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
yes I believe they do Do you mean yes, or oui?
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kev64 Cambs 24 Feb 22 5.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Newcastle, Arsenal, Everton, Aston Villa a European club would all pay 15m for Zaha, with his wages for another year that works out at 21m you have to ask is it better to get the money and buy a winger or possibly end up with nothing next summer, not an easy decision He won’t move out of London .. Arsenal is his only choice destination, but not sure Arteta would have him. Wilf doesn’t need £ he wants EU football/Cup none of the other teams will get him that .
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