Depends how far it's taken of course. Considering as a child he was forcibly pinned down and forced to drink alcohol on account of his religious beliefs at a cricket club, I'd say that there are certain experiences that team mates shouldn't put you through.

If abuse or bullying has a relentless of OTT quality to it, I don't think outside views towards mass immigration and the like should have anything to do with how those complaints are received. That in a nutshell though is likely the kind of wall be kept coming up against. If they'd listened to concerns earlier, I doubt it would've come to this. A bit of decency and common sense goes a long way in sport, the workplace and society.

he was part irish....from County Clare. So that would make him a hypocrite.

There are some awful workplace bullies about....English, pakistani, and other.

What is essential is a culture of zero tolerance, reporting the crime and accountability.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Like Stalinist Russia you mean?

Not for me....I don't want a world where people are frightened to say what they think.

I have a person trying to destroy my ability to make a living because he disagrees with me politically. He won't succeed but that's not the point.

These people are evil.

No different to the witch hunters of old, who also thought they were righteous.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2021 4.56pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I've stayed out of this thread. I read the first few pages a while back and thought all we were getting was the usual suspects adopting their standard positions and repeating their well-rehearsed arguments, rather than looking at the evidence.

As I was not involved and only had a few media accounts to inform, I reached no opinion, so didn't offer one.

Today I had to be in my car for a few hours, so put on Radio 5, which I do when Radio 4 is unappealing. So I stumbled on the Committee hearing. I didn't hear every word, as I needed to make a few stops, but I heard enough.

Rafiq's testimony was compelling. The behaviour he reported was unacceptable, and so were the responses. There is nothing the least "woke" about it.

Unfortunately, the attitudes that lie behind these events are a mirror image of those to be found within a certain group of regular posters in this section of the Hol.

Whilst the world at large is registering shock and outrage at the revelations, here the defences are being raised, with completely irrelevant links to "mass immigration" being made again.

I suggest everyone takes the time to actually watch, or listen as I did, to the testimony and reach your opinions on the facts. Jonathan Agnew, someone I have a lot of time for, did. He was forthright. There is a problem. We are all involved. We all need to play a part in solving it.

I hope everyone here agrees, and does.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Like I woke up to these people about five years ago this is going to wake up many more.

Many more are coming over and while this movement is peaceful it will grow in strength and representation. You have an identity and a right to be proud of your culture and ancestors. Stand up peacefully against the people who hate you.

The Tories are no longer your friends and they won't stand with you when they come for you.

Our politicians are either one of them or too cowardly to stand up against these people and say no more.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2021 5.15pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I feel sorry for Rafiq Dan H,very upsetting watching he's testimony.