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cryrst The garden of England 25 Apr 22 4.49pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
It might have something to do with the police being responsible for that killing.. just a small difference, like. Oh that chestnut. I'm sure that idiots family wouldn't be as rich though if it was just another black guy who killed him.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Apr 22 4.50pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Did you swear out of frustration or because boris had a party. A bit patronising - age is far from a guarantee of wisdom, as you show us every day.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Apr 22 4.54pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Oh that chestnut. I'm sure that idiots family wouldn't be as rich though if it was just another black guy who killed him. If someone killed one of your children, I'm sure money would not do much to soften the blow.
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cryrst The garden of England 25 Apr 22 5.04pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
If someone killed one of your children, I'm sure money would not do much to soften the blow.
Check out murder rates in Chicago, then tell me why floyd was so special! His family don't have total rights over grief.
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cryrst The garden of England 25 Apr 22 5.06pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
A bit patronising - age is far from a guarantee of wisdom, as you show us every day. But age buys you experience. It's not patronising if it's true!
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Apr 22 5.10pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
If someone killed one of your children, I'm sure money would not do much to soften the blow.
When you state a police killing as newsworthy you have a good point. However, if you consider it to be more of a problem when a handful of people are killed by poor policing, or even outright murder by police, than thousands of people killed by another demographic, then how can that be right in any shape or form? The real problem is the murder on the streets in our own towns. There is not a major issue of murderous police officers - although, there have been a couple of high profile cases recently, admittedly. I would perhaps suggest some people are being hoodwinked.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Apr 22 5.11pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Check out murder rates in Chicago, then tell me why floyd was so special! His family don't have total rights over grief. I can, for a third time, explain that the George Floyd case was different because he was killed by law enforcement. A simple concept for someone with so much 'experience' to understand.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Apr 22 5.15pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
When you state a police killing as newsworthy you have a good point. However, if you consider it to be more of a problem when a handful of people are killed by poor policing, or even outright murder by police, than thousands of people killed by another demographic, then how can that be right in any shape or form? The real problem is the murder on the streets in our own towns. There is not a major issue of murderous police officers - although, there have been a couple of high profile cases recently, admittedly. I would perhaps suggest some people are being hoodwinked. I get where you're coming from. I'd argue that one 'problem' is just so much easier fixed than others - criminality at a societal level is complex, expecting the police not to kill people isn't. However, broadly I think it's a fair observation - there are probably many people far too willing to jump in support of one cause without a bit of self-reflection on their own conduct.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Apr 22 5.23pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I get where you're coming from. I'd argue that one 'problem' is just so much easier fixed than others - criminality at a societal level is complex, expecting the police not to kill people isn't. However, broadly I think it's a fair observation - there are probably many people far too willing to jump in support of one cause without a bit of self-reflection on their own conduct. It's a decent point that recruiting better police and better vetting should be quite achievable, although there is probably always going to be a rotten apple. (Somebody should blame Brexit here)
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 25 Apr 22 5.26pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
It's a decent point that recruiting better police and better vetting should be quite achievable, although there is probably always going to be a rotten apple. (Somebody should blame Brexit here) Poverty and a lack of prospects seems an obvious start - whenever times get tough, austerity measures increased etc. you will see a stark increase in violent crime. (Brexit also made us poorer )
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PalazioVecchio south pole 25 Apr 22 5.35pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Stephen Lawrence was a saint. Murdered by a drugs gang for no reason.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 25 Apr 22 5.40pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Poverty and a lack of prospects seems an obvious start - whenever times get tough, austerity measures increased etc. you will see a stark increase in violent crime. (Brexit also made us poorer ) More family breakdown, lack of fathers sticking around, no respect for women in the first place. You don’t get gang members with 2 strong parents. There’s always been poverty but there was a clip round the ear, some fear and respect for elders and some discipline in school as opposed to children calling the shots and knowing they can get away with it. The amount of teachers needed at bus stops now tells the story.
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