That's one belly laugh I had this morning.

For some fantasy and not experience comes with age.

The very idea that lines are drawn and kept to.....Are these people awake? Where have they been these last fifty years?

There have been majority opinions behind lots of positions and it's made no difference because the culture is driven from the top, not the bottom.....Matov is right and I'd add that it isn't important what people say, it's what they do....what they will actually get off their arses and do something about....but today, if that differs from the top it paints you as an extremist.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2021 11.14am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It's been noted that many social liberals/Egalitarians, while promoting a mostly unfettered lifestyle for others actually lead quite conservative lifestyles themselves.

While they will vote left, and often as left as possible, they aren't actually very liberal in their personal lives.

They aren't very self reflective or analyse what the practical statistical outcomes are for society at large...because their personal behaviours ensure that they aren't part of that decline.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2021 11.27am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

They are a silent majority because they don't want to be associated with loudmouth , racist, extreme right wing scumbags.

I'm not really so sure why you are so threatened by a man that wants to wear a dress?

I don't know whether Alex Ferguson felt threatened by Beckham when he saw a picture in the paper of his star player wearing a dress, but I think it wasn't long afterwards that they parted company.

I've answered that Teddy. Read back, I made my view very cleary. Read back a couple of pages and you'll see it.

The biggest problem with a lot of these arguments that bigoted dinosaurs such as Stirling and Matov get involved and try and push their extreme hateful right wing views, and quash sensible conversation.

They don't really care about women's rights. They've state how they are at odds with femism in countless posts. But they are also anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-imigration, anti-anything but white.

Don't get me wrong. The far left go way to far on this issue.

Unfortunately, they live in that bitter world forever. Whilst claiming to support a multi-culteral team.

Their views and alignment with terrorist organisat PA is damaging for this website, and by association a damaging reflection on the club and it's fanbase.

Edited by jeeagles (04 Sep 2021 10.10pm)

You say you aren't 'far left', yet here you are using their buzzwords: that was a very bbs-like post.

As for your description about people you don't personally know. Ok, tell, me what I have said that proves I 'hate' any individual? Otherwise, you have just proven yourself a liar.

You don't have any answers other than to talk about 'extremism' and 'hate' and insults about opinions you disagree with. The 'hate' only appears to come from you, the apparent centrist.

You imply my position means I can't support non white people in a football team....that level of understanding is very rudimentary it was almost comic to read. I've supported CP for forty years, who the hell are you to suggest otherwise.

As for calling PA a 'terrorist organisation'? That's another lie. People can obviously make informed criticisms but that one is a lie as they don't support violence of any kind.

I suppose once someone starts lying it's easy to continue.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2021 12.33am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)