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Superhorns3 Harpdenden 31 Aug 19 5.57pm
Originally posted by DeanMiles Just seen the incident. We got very lucky. Isn't VAR, supposed to stop these kind of things from happening? They said it wasn't a clear and obvious error so couldn't rule over the official on the pitch. Maybe Grelish paid for his reptuation? Anyway good win for you - probably won't have to worry about us beating you even once this season on current form!
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Harpdenden 31 Aug 19 5.57pm

Originally posted by DeanMiles

Just seen the incident. We got very lucky.

Isn't VAR, supposed to stop these kind of things from happening?

They said it wasn't a clear and obvious error so couldn't rule over the official on the pitch.

Maybe Grelish paid for his reptuation?

Anyway good win for you - probably won't have to worry about us beating you even once this season on current form!

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Badger11 Beckenham 31 Aug 19 5.58pm
Originally posted by GlaziertoEagle We absolutely got lucky but VAR in this case couldn't even have helped. The ref blew before the shot was taken, so even if VAR were able to overturn the referees opinion about the 'dive', they still couldn't count the goal as the whistle interfered with play. As far as the dive/foul, the ref thought it was a dive, I don't think it was but once he's made the call VAR can only overturn it if it's an obvious error. If we discount all our opinions, it wasn't obviously not a dive, so VAR can't really do anything. Sorry just seen your post before I did my version. I agree once the whistle is blown it's all irrelevant if they are going to use VAR let the play continue for a few moments. One more point
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Beckenham 31 Aug 19 5.58pm

Originally posted by GlaziertoEagle

We absolutely got lucky but VAR in this case couldn't even have helped.

The ref blew before the shot was taken, so even if VAR were able to overturn the referees opinion about the 'dive', they still couldn't count the goal as the whistle interfered with play.

As far as the dive/foul, the ref thought it was a dive, I don't think it was but once he's made the call VAR can only overturn it if it's an obvious error. If we discount all our opinions, it wasn't obviously not a dive, so VAR can't really do anything.

Sorry just seen your post before I did my version. I agree once the whistle is blown it's all irrelevant if they are going to use VAR let the play continue for a few moments.

One more point

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YT Oxford 31 Aug 19 6.04pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I thought they could allow play to continue for a few moments and then check with VAR? Anyway my point was that once he blew his whistle Palace would argue they stopped playing so even if VAR said it wasn't a dive the goal could not stand. Allow play to continue for an offside; sure, as is the current guidance I believe, but you can't allow play to continue if you think an attacking player has committed a misdemeanor such as a foul or handball or, in this case, a simulation. Otherwise, you may as well dispense with the referee entirely - or at least take his whistle away. I entirely agree with the point you've reiterated, Badger, in that play stops with the whistle therefore VAR can't 'correct' a decision made. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 31 Aug 19 6.04pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I thought they could allow play to continue for a few moments and then check with VAR?

Anyway my point was that once he blew his whistle Palace would argue they stopped playing so even if VAR said it wasn't a dive the goal could not stand.

Allow play to continue for an offside; sure, as is the current guidance I believe, but you can't allow play to continue if you think an attacking player has committed a misdemeanor such as a foul or handball or, in this case, a simulation. Otherwise, you may as well dispense with the referee entirely - or at least take his whistle away.

I entirely agree with the point you've reiterated, Badger, in that play stops with the whistle therefore VAR can't 'correct' a decision made.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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askyourself 31 Aug 19 6.07pm
On the subject of "rub of the green" and Grumpy Grealish's dive/no dive .... we could of had a pen in the first half when our top scorer, JA was shoved in the back. We move in the direction of our thoughts. Just think a little.
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31 Aug 19 6.07pm

On the subject of "rub of the green" and Grumpy Grealish's dive/no dive .... we could of had a pen in the first half when our top scorer, JA was shoved in the back.

We move in the direction of our thoughts.
Just think a little.

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Mathers 31 Aug 19 6.10pm
We made incredibly hard work of that. 40 mins against a 10 man newly promoted team. We should be comfortably winning not hanging on at the death and relying on a very dubious referee call to avoid embarrassment. Great to get the points on the board but please let’s not get carried away and forget the glaring issues we have.
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31 Aug 19 6.10pm

We made incredibly hard work of that. 40 mins against a 10 man newly promoted team. We should be comfortably winning not hanging on at the death and relying on a very dubious referee call to avoid embarrassment.

Great to get the points on the board but please let’s not get carried away and forget the glaring issues we have.

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YT Oxford 31 Aug 19 6.12pm
Originally posted by Mathers We made incredibly hard work of that. 40 mins against a 10 man newly promoted team. We should be comfortably winning not hanging on at the death and relying on a very dubious referee call to avoid embarrassment. Great to get the points on the board but please let’s not get carried away and forget the glaring issues we have. Not as hard as we made Brighton away, last season. Progress! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 31 Aug 19 6.12pm

Originally posted by Mathers

We made incredibly hard work of that. 40 mins against a 10 man newly promoted team. We should be comfortably winning not hanging on at the death and relying on a very dubious referee call to avoid embarrassment.

Great to get the points on the board but please let’s not get carried away and forget the glaring issues we have.

Not as hard as we made Brighton away, last season. Progress!

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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MKCPFC Spain/MK 31 Aug 19 6.17pm
Originally posted by Mathers We made incredibly hard work of that. 40 mins against a 10 man newly promoted team. We should be comfortably winning not hanging on at the death and relying on a very dubious referee call to avoid embarrassment. Great to get the points on the board but please let’s not get carried away and forget the glaring issues we have. OK , I for one will join you and stay at home and be miserable and reflect on our terrible rise to fourth.
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Spain/MK 31 Aug 19 6.17pm

Originally posted by Mathers

Great to get the points on the board but please let’s not get carried away and forget the glaring issues we have.

OK , I for one will join you and stay at home and be miserable and reflect on our terrible rise to fourth.

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Painter Croydon 31 Aug 19 6.31pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Must be so nice to look at everything as black and white, so simplistically. So that goal going in means Hodgson is the best manager ever and never delays making attacking subs or lacks the balls to actually have a go at winning home games against lesser teams, rather that simply trying to not lose? I fail to see why nearly every post of yours has a negative twist. What do you expect, we totally dominated the game with 22 shots on another day, more may of gone in. When your attacking option on the bench is Benteke, most can understand why he kept Ayew on as long as possible. Don't mention Meyer he brings nothing to the team.
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Croydon 31 Aug 19 6.31pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Must be so nice to look at everything as black and white, so simplistically.

So that goal going in means Hodgson is the best manager ever and never delays making attacking subs or lacks the balls to actually have a go at winning home games against lesser teams, rather that simply trying to not lose?

I fail to see why nearly every post of yours has a negative twist. What do you expect, we totally dominated the game with 22 shots on another day, more may of gone in.
When your attacking option on the bench is Benteke, most can understand why he kept Ayew on as long as possible. Don't mention Meyer he brings nothing to the team.

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Painter Croydon 31 Aug 19 6.37pm
Originally posted by DeanMiles Just seen the incident. We got very lucky. Isn't VAR, supposed to stop these kind of things from happening? Kevin Friend had an excellent game today, making up for his diabolical display when we played Brighton away last season.
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Croydon 31 Aug 19 6.37pm

Originally posted by DeanMiles

Just seen the incident. We got very lucky.

Isn't VAR, supposed to stop these kind of things from happening?

Kevin Friend had an excellent game today, making up for his diabolical display when we played Brighton away last season.

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spartakev2 Anerley 31 Aug 19 6.41pm
Strong bench
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Anerley 31 Aug 19 6.41pm

Strong bench

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Texas Eagle San Antonio, Texas (via Adelaide) 31 Aug 19 6.45pm
Originally posted by Painter I fail to see why nearly every post of yours has a negative twist. What do you expect, we totally dominated the game with 22 shots on another day, more may of gone in. When your attacking option on the bench is Benteke, most can understand why he kept Ayew on as long as possible. Don't mention Meyer he brings nothing to the team. Meyer brings a lot more to this team them Macca. "Billy Gilbert really is God"
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