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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Aug 19 8.27am | |
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Originally posted by Lucretius
Then the answer is simple. You have no understanding and you just wish to indulge in stereotypes.
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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Aug 19 8.42am | |
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Originally posted by Lucretius
No. The extinction of Europeans will be victimless in that sense. It will happen by the process of replacement because of birth rates and migration. Some will say so what. Some will be glad. Many won't even notice. In an alternative history. Europeans realise their potential fate and make a conscious effort to have more children, say three instead of two, and refrain from mixed relationships that produce children.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 8.42am | |
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Originally posted by dollardays
Yeah but what are the pasties like? That depends on the pasty. There are the mass produced ones you can find in the supermarket. Then there are ones you can find in the specialist pasty shops on the high street. Then there are the ones the Cornish themselves eat. You have to be in the know to know where to find them. They are just wonderful.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 8.44am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Not good enough to justify driving for hours and hours to get somewhere no nicer than scores of other places. Millions of tourists disagree. So do I, but don't worry, we won't miss you.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 8.59am | |
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Originally posted by dollardays
If you're unhappy with the demographics of your locality where would you prefer to move to? I certainly appreciate that if an area changes at a rapid pace, it is naive and somewhat arrogant of people to infer that you're somehow not allowed to form an opinion on that. If anything changes in life, a direct experience of it counts, which is of course one of the more compos mentis points you make, when you're not being lured further down the garden path. I think rate of change is always important, and is a reality that's lost where people tend to drift to complete opposite ends of the spectrum with their language on these issues. Edited by dollardays (07 Aug 2019 1.15am) I moved into Wisbech in 2002 when I bought a business there. Many eyebrows were raised by my friends as it had such a poor reputation. I was told it had some extremely odd people there, which was certainly confirmed during my time there. And since. Although there are also some really nice ones in the immigrant community. I moved out of Wisbech when I sold my business and retired to Cornwall, which is an area I have always loved and have some connections with. There was nothing at all which demanded I remain in Wisbech. If your work demands you live close to it then you make the best of it. Earning a living comes first, but when you have a free choice you can go where-ever you choose.
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Teddy Eagle 07 Aug 19 9.08am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Millions of tourists disagree. So do I, but don't worry, we won't miss you.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 9.10am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
As previously said this implies that the various nationalities and religions involved respect and love each other and they don’t. Do you honestly believe that Hindus and Muslims, West Indians and Africans, Poles and Russians, etc love and respect each other? When they arrive here intending to remain, and probably acquire citizenship, then they need to understand that, alongside their original cultural identities, they will be adopting a British one. That won't necessarily happen by default so it needs to be worked on but every immigrant must be left in no doubt about what is expected. We are moving someway towards that with the "Life in the UK" test requirement but it needs to be greatly expanded.
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Teddy Eagle 07 Aug 19 9.42am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When they arrive here intending to remain, and probably acquire citizenship, then they need to understand that, alongside their original cultural identities, they will be adopting a British one. That won't necessarily happen by default so it needs to be worked on but every immigrant must be left in no doubt about what is expected. We are moving someway towards that with the "Life in the UK" test requirement but it needs to be greatly expanded. OK. If you say so. Personally I’d have thought hundreds of years of enmity aren’t going to be forgotten after a few lessons but maybe your hippy dreamscape is the way forward.
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W12 07 Aug 19 11.11am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When they arrive here intending to remain, and probably acquire citizenship, then they need to understand that, alongside their original cultural identities, they will be adopting a British one. That won't necessarily happen by default so it needs to be worked on but every immigrant must be left in no doubt about what is expected. We are moving someway towards that with the "Life in the UK" test requirement but it needs to be greatly expanded. These various groups are now entrenched, living parallel lives and don't identify as British (in fact there is much evidence of anti Britishness or even anti "whiteness" growing). Even the mainstream media recognizes that and all you can offer is a citizenship test? Why shouldn't we simply stop this?
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Invalid user 2019 07 Aug 19 11.29am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I moved into Wisbech in 2002 when I bought a business there. Many eyebrows were raised by my friends as it had such a poor reputation. I was told it had some extremely odd people there, which was certainly confirmed during my time there. And since. It takes all sorts! Quote
I moved out of Wisbech when I sold my business and retired to Cornwall, which is an area I have always loved and have some connections with. There was nothing at all which demanded I remain in Wisbech. If your work demands you live close to it then you make the best of it. Earning a living comes first, but when you have a free choice you can go where-ever you choose. Well, yes I tend to find that where people move is primarily very well aligned with their bank balance, rather than anything else. Edited by dollardays (07 Aug 2019 11.30am)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 3.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
OK. If you say so. Personally I’d have thought hundreds of years of enmity aren’t going to be forgotten after a few lessons but maybe your hippy dreamscape is the way forward. You just don't get it do you? Just as we don't carry the responsibility for our forefathers owning slaves because we have moved on in our way of thinking so will the future generations of immigrants, so long as we manage the situation correctly. Going to British schools, watching British TV and being involved in British culture will ensure that. It's the schooling though that is the key. In the internet age if we allow a situation in which children grow up entirely surrounded by another culture nothing will change.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 19 4.05pm | |
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Originally posted by W12
These various groups are now entrenched, living parallel lives and don't identify as British (in fact there is much evidence of anti Britishness or even anti "whiteness" growing). Even the mainstream media recognizes that and all you can offer is a citizenship test? Why shouldn't we simply stop this? I recognise the problem but rather than just complain about it I have proposed what I believe to be the key to the solution. Not a "citizen test"! That's in place already and is the precursor to stronger action.The key is in the schools. To just "stop it" seems such a simple idea, but there are many practical and legal barriers to such a policy, let alone any economic ones. It would also not do anything about those people already here who concern you.
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