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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 03 Jan 19 11.26pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978


How dare Mr trump try and stop illegal people entering his country!!

...and judging by all the couples walking through Croydon on a Saturday i would say there are a lot of illegal men entering South London Country.

 


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steve1984 03 Jan 19 11.32pm

With supernatural powers like that you should offer your services to the home office. I'm sure they'd pay you a fortune.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 03 Jan 19 11.47pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

...and judging by all the couples walking through Croydon on a Saturday i would say there are a lot of illegal men entering South London Country.

What a strange comment.

You are aware the Home Office is based here?

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 Jan 19 12.40am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

What a strange comment.

You are aware the Home Office is based here?

is the long queue at lunar house... male or female ?


innit ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Jan 2019 12.45am)

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 04 Jan 19 9.39am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

is the long queue at lunar house... male or female ?


innit ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Jan 2019 12.45am)

In English a queue doesn’t have a gender. I have never stood and watched the people in the queue. Why do you and what is your finding? May I borrow your click counter to do my own check?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Jan 19 9.49am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

In English a queue doesn’t have a gender. I have never stood and watched the people in the queue. Why do you and what is your finding? May I borrow your click counter to do my own check?

Another round of reality avoidance.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 04 Jan 19 9.55am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Another round of reality avoidance.

I don’t understand the point so not really

If a part of the point is Croydon is chock full of male illegal immigrants that would surprise me. It’s the last place I would choose were I one. Right under the noses of the immigration officers.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Jan 19 10.13am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I don’t understand the point so not really

If a part of the point is Croydon is chock full of male illegal immigrants that would surprise me. It’s the last place I would choose were I one. Right under the noses of the immigration officers.

Arguing the details of where illegals and assorted migrants decide to hang out is just avoiding the greater reality of mostly male opportunists coming here in significant numbers to exploit our absurdly generous society.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 04 Jan 19 12.45pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Arguing the details of where illegals and assorted migrants decide to hang out is just avoiding the greater reality of mostly male opportunists coming here in significant numbers to exploit our absurdly generous society.

Lefties have never bothered to allow the truth to cloud an argument.

If the cohort of people living in the UK aged 18-40 is only skewed 52% male to 48% female, that is a catastrophe.

What are you witnessing in the couples walking past you everyday ? How often have you seen a local bloke with a new-arrival woman from places like Syria ? About as rare as a Hen's tooth ?

And how about the other way around ?


Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Jan 2019 1.14pm)

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 05 Jan 19 12.38am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Lefties have never bothered to allow the truth to cloud an argument.

If the cohort of people living in the UK aged 18-40 is only skewed 52% male to 48% female, that is a catastrophe.

What are you witnessing in the couples walking past you everyday ? How often have you seen a local bloke with a new-arrival woman from places like Syria ? About as rare as a Hen's tooth ?

And how about the other way around ?


Edited by PalazioVecchio (04 Jan 2019 1.14pm)

Ah. It’s a catastrophe eh?

Do you have any idea of the global ratio of males to females, the UK ratio or the birth stats?

Find another way to justify your prejudices, this one doesn’t hold water.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jan 19 3.34am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah. It’s a catastrophe eh?

Do you have any idea of the global ratio of males to females, the UK ratio or the birth stats?

Find another way to justify your prejudices, this one doesn’t hold water.

Yeah, but those differences aren't related to any of this Maple.

On average from the statistics I've seen, when not interfered with, there are 105 males for every 100 females born.

This is nature compensating for the differences in general male/female behaviour where the male takes more risks resulting in more early death.

Essentially as a set generation ages this difference equalises out.

However, in many non western countries there is also a deliberate cultural intervention in favour of males over females which leads to a higher proportion of men.....In China I think this misbalance goes as high as 12 percent.....and it obviously creates problems for the next generation which China has been struggling with for a long time.

However, none of this is related to the realities of young males being significantly over representated in economic migrants.

Whether or not someone has a prejudice or not is neither here nor there. What matters is....as in all things...what is the end result. How close to the truth is someone's 'prejudice' as opposed to someone else's.....because everybody has them.

For example, you made claims about IQ tests and how a certain group had possibly slanted them. How accurate is that? Personally I don't think the claim holds water, because not all IQ tests are the same but the results on who scores better correlate to expectations on intelligence ....but if I wanted to be proof certain I'd look into it again with an open mind.

If you have an honest actor....because that honesty is central....an honest actor can use statistics and honest logical deductions on the data to justify a position or not....and still understand and be honest over statistics not being the perfect conveyor of reality depending upon what questions you are asking.

However, all this also requires an individual to be honest about what they are claiming.....as it also requires anyone paraphrasing that person to be honest about their claims.

Unfortunately the number of honest actors are severely limited.....Not necessarily because we lack a number of conscientious people....but because honesty and policy have rarely been connected and hence required.

People are less interested in the truth if it doesn't support their positions. They are interested in their agenda or political tribe winning.

In a sense, that's neither a good nor bad thing because essentially much of what is 'better' comes down to worldview and what matters more to an individual is personal....but it doesn't get you nearer to any underlying truths....that's for sure.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2019 6.05am)

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 05 Jan 19 9.11am

Originally posted by chris123

Where do we send people back to France or Iran? I don't understand the attraction of the UK over France that people are risking their lives crossing the channel in inflatables.

The NHS and ease of benefits.

 

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