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Kodg Flag LDN 29 Nov 17 11.18pm

Originally posted by so many memories


I'll save you a yellow card. f*** off willo you traffic warden, neighbourhood watch, nimby, tosspot. So many threads on here you've royally f*** up because of your incesent bollocks.

Well said, this Wilko, is nothing more than a male Hyacinth Bucket – a lazy caricature, a pathetic sham with access to a 70s vocabulary that he believes impresses, when in reality people are simply laughing at him

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Nov 17 11.34pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Kodg

Where is the evidence? Oh come on. Stop being such a pompous knob. There's countless firsthand testimonies from people telling you what happened to them. But instead your arrogance prevents you from deviating from your prejudice.

If you're not prepared to listen, maybe stop posting

It really is a shame that people seemingly cannot argue their case without resorting to such personal attacks.

At least I can give you my honest opinions without such virulent personal slurs.

Your angst should NOT be directed at 'Yours Truly' but to those hoodlums whose actions resulted in the events that followed which affected genuine supporters with tickets.

Let's NOT derail this thread by ad hominem attacks and get back to the subject under discussion.


Edited by Willo (29 Nov 2017 11.40pm)

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Nov 17 11.35pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Kodg

Well said, this Wilko, is nothing more than a male Hyacinth Bucket – a lazy caricature, a pathetic sham with access to a 70s vocabulary that he believes impresses, when in reality people are simply laughing at him

Kindly refer to my previous post.Thank You.

 

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chateauferret Flag 29 Nov 17 11.43pm

Originally posted by Willo

It really is a shame that people seemingly cannot argue their case without resorting to such personal attacks.

At least I can give you my honest opinions without such virulent personal slurs.

Let's NOT derail this thread by ad hominem attacks and get back to the subject under discussion.


We've established on numerous occasions that Willo has no idea what evidence is and cannot tell the difference between an argument supported with evidence on the one hand and a load of hot air and unsubstantiated bulls*** on the other.

He doesn't seem to know what argumentum ad hominem means either. It means arguing that an argument is invalid because of some opinion about the character of the person making it, or that of someone he cites. The substance of your argument is that there are many witness accounts that contradict Willo's position, which is evidence, not a personal attack.

 


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NeaKnuck Flag London 29 Nov 17 11.48pm Send a Private Message to NeaKnuck Add NeaKnuck as a friend

I agree with Willo - our fans were disgusting and worser than anything i've seen before.

 

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chateauferret Flag 29 Nov 17 11.50pm

Originally posted by NeaKnuck

I agree with Willo - our fans were disgusting and worser than anything i've seen before.

What, all of them?

 


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NeaKnuck Flag London 29 Nov 17 11.59pm Send a Private Message to NeaKnuck Add NeaKnuck as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

What, all of them?

Of course not, but there was a nasty element I've never seen before. Yes I know it was Brighton but we should have shown them how to support a team - a non stop wall of noise, not knives & knuckledusters. Leave that to Millwall - We are better than that

 

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Michaelawt85 Flag Bexley 30 Nov 17 12.00am Send a Private Message to Michaelawt85 Add Michaelawt85 as a friend

Originally posted by NeaKnuck

I agree with Willo - our fans were disgusting and worser than anything i've seen before.

Bear in mind willo wasn't even there

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Nov 17 12.10am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by NeaKnuck

Of course not, but there was a nasty element I've never seen before. Yes I know it was Brighton but we should have shown them how to support a team - a non stop wall of noise, not knives & knuckledusters. Leave that to Millwall - We are better than that

Knives and knuckle dusters found on people but no arrests? Hmmmm.

Sounds as fictional as Brighton Rock.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Nov 17 12.38am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

We've established on numerous occasions that Willo has no idea what evidence is and cannot tell the difference between an argument supported with evidence on the one hand and a load of hot air and unsubstantiated bulls*** on the other.

He doesn't seem to know what argumentum ad hominem means either. It means arguing that an argument is invalid because of some opinion about the character of the person making it, or that of someone he cites. The substance of your argument is that there are many witness accounts that contradict Willo's position, which is evidence, not a personal attack.

I just had to guffaw at some of the claims about "Evidence" and "Arguments" for reasons which I shall keep to myself.

At the end of the day it has been well documented that reprobates were the source for the events at the Amex yet somehow their disgraceful behaviour has been 'Lost' in a haze of accounts of Police behaviour towards our genuine supporters.

I have already stated that I am NOT privy to events surrounding Police activity concerning our supporters so I am NOT in a position to comment on the specifics but I have also added that IF the Police have a case to answer this should be dealt with by the relevant authorities.

That said,I fully appreciate that in a highly-charged situation involving hostile supporters the Police are in a very difficult situation and have to deal with an array of emotions.

To summarise, I am not defending the Police regards last night's activities as I am not Au Fait with precisely what went on, but I fully condemn those who went hell-bent on wreaking havoc and in doing so adversely affected genuine supporters.Shame on these darned oafs.

Edited by Willo (30 Nov 2017 12.39am)

 

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chateauferret Flag 30 Nov 17 1.12am

Originally posted by Willo

I just had to guffaw at some of the claims about "Evidence" and "Arguments" for reasons which I shall keep to myself.

At the end of the day it has been well documented that reprobates were the source for the events at the Amex yet somehow their disgraceful behaviour has been 'Lost' in a haze of accounts of Police behaviour towards our genuine supporters.

I have already stated that I am NOT privy to events surrounding Police activity concerning our supporters so I am NOT in a position to comment on the specifics but I have also added that IF the Police have a case to answer this should be dealt with by the relevant authorities.

That said,I fully appreciate that in a highly-charged situation involving hostile supporters the Police are in a very difficult situation and have to deal with an array of emotions.

To summarise, I am not defending the Police regards last night's activities as I am not Au Fait with precisely what went on, but I fully condemn those who went hell-bent on wreaking havoc and in doing so adversely affected genuine supporters.Shame on these darned oafs.

"Adversely affected"? Reads like Treat Officially correspondence from a policy branch. Zero empathy. Pathetic.


Edited by chateauferret (30 Nov 2017 1.17am)

 


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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 30 Nov 17 6.58am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

whether people like his tone & language or not, Willo is right. some t***s made it so that some of our most loyal fans with tickets couldn't get in to the away game of the year.

it is by definition failed policing and securuty that the t***s got in, and after that failure, the police panicked and decent fans were seemingly treated appallingly.

but the t***s are first in line for blame.

 


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