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Ray in Houston Houston 13 Nov 17 8.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
As i said in my post, i didn't feel over powered - i can break that down for you - emotionally, professionally or physically. And that is my point - the moment you have no control, that to me is the deciding factor. A girl walks in to my cabin and jumps on me - i say no! what's the likely hood she walks out and says it was the other way round and i get the trouble? And for you to tell me, from my own experiences what constitutes sexual harassment - shame on you. I got unwanted sexual attention - harassment - by your definition, anyone can go kiss someone in the street. Now, don't get confused for one moment and think that i see myself as a victim - i don't. But i am highlighting how the exact same situation, for someone else, male or female, could lead to them feeling sexually harassed and i feel i am highlighting, in my opinion, the differences between the sexes. As someone said, what if she were susan boyle and had my job on the line - well, i will give you an example, an older man was my boss, he was married, but a closeted homosexual. He would hire young males and try his luck, it was an open secret. he tried it on with me, paid me more, gave me extra shifts, pinched my bum and flirted - i still felt in control and said no every time and laughed it off - i laughed as he was the mug paying me over time for no reason. Anyways, point is... this whole saga has gotten out of hand in the media.
As to your point that she might turn it around and claim you were the one coming on too strong, well that exact thing has happened to me. It was distressing to find out (some time later) what she'd been saying about me, but it had no other notable impact on my career (she was a friend of a colleague) or my life. She had no power over me that way, so it just became a story that most dismissed for being completely out of character from a person who later became widely known for being nuts (because she was). As to your Susan Boyle hypothetical and your gay boss actual scenarios, these are both sexual harassment proper. It's great that you were able to laugh off your boss' advances but another person might not have been able to the same, at best, or may even have felt the need to succumb at worst. As for the media attention to this topic, it's only the disinfectant of daylight that will end this scourge. I mean, I get the burn out - I've heard far too many reports of ugly old men cornering women and making them watch him bang one out - but at least I'm only being forced to hear the reports, not actually go through the experience. Outing as many of these bullies and rapists as we can, as quickly as we can, is a very big step towards not having to hear about it any more, because these men will be able to get away with it maybe once or twice before they get outed, not decades. Edited by Ray in Houston (13 Nov 2017 8.58pm)
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 13 Nov 17 10.10pm | |
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Left Wing activist & homosexual accused of sexual assault
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Nov 17 11.01pm | |
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Right wing activist and leader of the free world accused of sexual assault.
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 17 11.08pm | |
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Mr Sulu? I don't believe a word of it, sorry.
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 17 11.10pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Right wing activist and leader of the free world accused of sexual assault. He gets accused of something by the Left on a daily basis. It kind of dilutes any truth there might be in any of it.
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Stirlingsays 14 Nov 17 12.25am | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
That's why whipping your dick out in the pub is just "being a lad" but whipping your dick out during an interview for a role in a movie is sexual harassment.
Sexual harassment exists and has always existed. It's physical forms are mainly carried out by men but it's done by both sexes. It's just another example of the redefinitions that progressives add to words. Racism being another one...'You can't be racist to white people' being another BS plank of this philosophy because again....the 'power' excuse. You hate Trump, but it's this type of politics that is responsible for a core of his support. A person like Trump could have never had gained the popularity necessary to win the republican ticket if 'progressivism' hadn't infected the democratic party. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Nov 2017 1.58am)
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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Nov 17 11.39am | |
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I think this is a cross politic problem, truth be told.
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Ray in Houston Houston 14 Nov 17 3.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Mr Sulu? I don't believe a word of it, sorry. How the f*** can you judge Takei's character from watching Star Trek and/or following him on Twitter? I was disheartened to hear about this (as I was about Louis CK), but just because I enjoyed someone's work (like I have Weinstein's) doesn't excuse such behavior (alleged behavior in the case of Takei). You are putting your ability to judge a man's character - by watching play a character on TV - over the statements of an individual who you have never met, seen or heard of before. That's just insane.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Nov 17 3.29pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Right wing activist and leader of the free world accused of sexual assault. WHOOSH !!!!!!!! I was actually being flippant (something lost on you I'm afraid) I was merely pointing out the rank hypocrisy of all concerned (or involved) that both sides are as bad as each other.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Nov 17 3.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
How the f*** can you judge Takei's character from watching Star Trek and/or following him on Twitter? I was disheartened to hear about this (as I was about Louis CK), but just because I enjoyed someone's work (like I have Weinstein's) doesn't excuse such behavior (alleged behavior in the case of Takei). You are putting your ability to judge a man's character - by watching play a character on TV - over the statements of an individual who you have never met, seen or heard of before. That's just insane. Isn't it always?
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Ray in Houston Houston 14 Nov 17 3.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's called 'sexual harassment'.....not sexual harassment within power situations.....that's an example of it but it's not limited to that. Our society is currently going overboard with what realistically is sexual harassment but perhaps in places like Hollywood this rebalancing helps...if they don't go overboard. Sexual harassment exists and has always existed. It's physical forms are mainly carried out by men but it's done by both sexes. It's just another example of the redefinitions that progressives add to words. Racism being another one...'You can't be racist to white people' being another BS plank of this philosophy because again....the 'power' excuse. You hate Trump, but it's this type of politics that is responsible for a core of his support. A person like Trump could have never had gained the popularity necessary to win the republican ticket if 'progressivism' hadn't infected the democratic party.
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Ray in Houston Houston 14 Nov 17 3.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Isn't it always?
Very few of even the occurrences that we know about move from the "alleged" column into the "proven" column, but that's kind of the point. Judging by the sheer volume of responses to the #MeToo campaign, what we know about is the tip of the iceberg.
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